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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 01:52 pm:

Got this from my grandfather many years ago. He said at the time that he thought it was a wagon wheel wrench.

First off, wondering if that's true and if not then what was its purpose?

Secondly, I don't collect tools but if there is someone on the forum who does, I'd be happy to throw it in a flat-rate small priority box and send it your way. It really should be in the hands of someone who will have more appreciation for it than me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 02:03 pm:

Yes, it a wagon wheel wrench. The big square end fits on the nut that holds the wheel on and the smaller openings are for other nuts and bolts on the wagon.

There are a bunch of them around with those with names like Studebaker more rare and worth more.

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 02:05 pm:

Thanks Jim. This one has some characters cast into it but they are so faint, I can only read one of them that is off by itself and it looks like the number "3"...maybe...the rest is currently illegible but I haven't tried cleaning on it at all.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Morsher on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 02:41 pm:

Daniel, If the big square end fits a 1 1/4 " square nut, I could use it on my 1909 Norwalk Auto-Bug. I would be glad to buy it. Tim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 02:47 pm:

Sorry Tim. The ID on the square end is one inch.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 04:24 pm:

I do not think it is a true "wagon wheel nut wrench" The wheel nuts are usually in the 2 inch range +or-. It looks more like a cultivator wrench, a plow wrench, a sickle mower wrench ect. Or could be a "wagon wrench" for smaller bolts on the wagon All the old farm equipment usually came with a small tool kit to fit all the bolts on that particular piece of equipment. Nice looking wrench, a lot of them have a "ear" broken off because they are made of a poor ductile type of iron.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Morsher on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 04:36 pm:

Thanks Daniel, Most buggy wrenches you find are smaller like that. The wheel nuts are usually 1" or 1 1/8" square.

I treasure some plain old ford wrenches that were handed down through the years from my great grandfathers Ford, and make sure I don't mix them in. You may regret getting rid of it someday, even though it has very little monetary value.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 04:54 pm:

Thanks for the information, guys.

Tim,I do have all the Ford T & A wrenches he gave me years ago and will be keeping those. These weren't tools that have been handed down several generations or anything - just stuff he picked up at garage sales and what not.

I totally understand what you're saying though. My house and shop are filled with mementos handed down by my forebears.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Erfert on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 05:20 pm:

My grandfather used his for shaking the coals in his coal stove. That was all I ever saw it used for. The grates were at the bottom of the stove and when shaken the cinders would fall into the removable pan and carried out to the ashbox.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 05:52 pm:

Got a couple hanging on the wall. Will have to see if any markings. Often see them in sales.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 06:07 pm:

I have a few buggy wrenches, mostly 1 1/4" and one 1 1/8". Also have two light (buckboard) wagon gears, both take 1 1/4" wheel nut wrenches.

If any one wants one they can be found on ebay all the time under wagon, carriage or buggy wrenches. Most are $10 - $20. The Studebaker one is worth about $100 and I found it in the bottom of a $5 auction tool box.

Jim




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 09:34 pm:


A variation. Can some one tell me the purpose of the offset handle on the adjustable wrench.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 09:41 pm:

Interesting thing on the adjustable. Someone had taken a cold chisel to the first four letters of the makers name and neatly split each letter so it can't be read.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 10:15 pm:

Gary,
Good question. After looking around it looks like the offset S shaped adjustable wrenches were just the style of the day with no specific purpose.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Garrison_Rice Minnesota on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 11:22 pm:

I've got several wrenches with Ford script on them I will never have a use for. I have thought of mounting them on a board and displaying them with my Model T's but don't know if I'll ever really bother with it. I guess I'd like to find someone who would have an interest in them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Sunday, June 29, 2014 - 11:54 pm:

As a side note I have one of the S shaped adjustable wrenches that is marked Fordson.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Morsher on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 12:48 am:

FordsontoolsTools


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Cook on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 03:52 am:

Any ideas on this one? Chris.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 02:41 pm:

One tool tool box.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Cook on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 05:33 pm:

Lettering says Vulcan Auto Tool, J.H.Williams Brooklyn USA.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 05:35 pm:

I would say, it has something to do with fencing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charles Linsenbarth on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 05:36 pm:

@Chris Cook, I use one of those to do barb wire fence work, that's what I thought it was used for, the guy that owned it before me, that's what he used it for. And it works great.
Charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 08:40 pm:

Here is what the Vulcan Auto tool can do:


Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Monday, June 30, 2014 - 08:43 pm:

That is a great tool it even has a beer bottle opener built in! :-)


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