Advice From The Experts On Removing Stuck Pedal Shafts

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Advice From The Experts On Removing Stuck Pedal Shafts
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Richmond, Texas on Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 12:12 am:

I'm seeking advice on the best way to remove stuck Reverse and Brake pedals and shafts from an iron hogshead. I bought a used 26-27 hogshead with a good tight (but free) clutch release shaft because my original 26-27 hogshead had enough wear on the clutch release shaft that you could see daylight around the shaft where it goes through the hogshead.

The new hogshead has a free Low pedal and shaft, but the other two won't budge with me putting all my weight on them and I'm 240 pounds. So far, I've tried generous soaking with Kroil and these are the first two things that I haven't been able to free up with Kroil. I am wondering if I'm going to have to apply heat; how much, and where? The Reverse and Brake pedal shafts look like new (with surface rust) as does the Low speed shaft, and I'd like to use them once they're freed up, so I don't want to ruin the threads on them. The original band springs and nuts are fine and I can remove them, but I can't get the dang Reverse and Brake shafts to budge. Any suggestions?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 12:48 am:

Turn the hogs head on it's side and spray PB Blaster on shafts.Let them soak and spray them every so often after about a week try tapping the pedal with a hammer to see if it moves. It will eventually move a little and you can slowly work them out.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter Borland. Bathurst. NSW. Australia. on Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 12:55 am:

I'm with Jack, that's how I removed a few tight shafts.

Peter


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Richmond, Texas on Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 01:00 am:

Jack, when you say turn hogshead on its side, I assume you mean, the right side with the pedals sticking up, correct?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 01:17 am:

1 Forget Kroil & PB Blaster.
Penetrating oil comparison
Machinist’s Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts. Significant results! They are below, as forwarded by an ex-student and professional machinist, Bud Baker. Don’t forget the April 2007 “Machinist’s Workshop” magazine comparison test.

They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a “scientifically rusted” environment.

Penetrating oil ….. Average load...Cost per ounce

None ................. 516 pounds
WD-40 .............. 238 pounds ... 25¢
PB Blaster ......... 214 pounds ... 35¢
Liquid Wrench ... 127 pounds ... 21¢
Kano Kroil ........ 106 pounds ... 75¢
ATF-Acetone mix.. 53 pounds ... 10¢

The ATF-Acetone mix was a “home brew” mix of 50 – 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the “home brew” was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. Note also that “Liquid Wrench” is about as good as “Kroil” for about 20% of the price. Your experience may vary, etc., etc.

2 I'd soak it both ways, on its side with the pedals up and on its other side with the pedals down.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 06:35 am:

Hey Terry have you removed the bolts holding the cams in place? That'll help loosen things up.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 02:24 pm:

don't forget when everything else fails fire and water will take anything lose. use care with cast iron. charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Kriegel Mishawaka Indiana on Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 03:52 pm:

I have used the ATF Acetone mentioned here in the forum with excellent results


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Tuesday, July 01, 2014 - 04:41 pm:

Be sure to remove hogshead from car first. Oh. Guess you have.


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