We have a '25 Coupe that is late June or July. I did not take time to look it up, but there were about 50,000 T's built between it and our '26 roadster. What are the odds of this and it makes me wonder if they were both assembled here in Kansas City, Missouri at the old Winchester Assembly plant. Not sure if I could find out.
So, when did the T start rolling out of the plant with a green engine?
Thanks for the help.
'27 model year, and included the moleskin green-gray paint and nickel finished head bolts, water outlet and inlet bolts and bolts on the valve cover.
Letter in files at Ford dated July 26, 1926 states these changes.
Note that the green engine paint on the Model T was not the same as the green engine paint on the 1928-31 Model A Fords. See: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/E.htm#eng5 for reference on Model T color(s).
Ref: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/doc26.htm where it states:
JUL 27, 1926 Engine production records, Ford Archives
Started to paint motors with Pyroxylin. (Drake Green indicated in one note, but other documentation indicates "Faunskin.")
Ref: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/E.htm#eng5 whre it states:
The late 1926 and 1927 engines were painted green, according to some records. The green was called (by Ford) Drake Green, and was the same color as the green used on the closed cars. However a letter from the Detroit office, dated September 3, 1926, has this to say:
"We are attaching paint specifications covering the painting of the following parts:
"T4468 Breather Pipe Cap to be enameled. T-2202 Mixing Chamber to be Moleskin Motor Pyroxylin M-124. T-442 Water Outlet Connection to be Moleskin Motor Pyroxylin M-124. T-8719 Water Inlet Connection to be Moleskin Motor Pyroxylin M-124."
Concerning where you T’s may have been assembled:
If both of your Ts were originally sold new near the Kansas City plant, that is the plant they normally would have been assembled. As a rule of thumb by the mid-teens and later if the car was sold new near an assembly plant - that is the one it would have been where it was produced. When you start getting further from the plants then the actual boundaries of the Assembly Plant territory would determine which plant supplied the car to a dealer (often called agency back then). For additional details please see the posting at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/310623.html?1348074676
Note starting around 1926”ish” some USA [but clearly NOT all USA] assembly plants stamped an assembly code onto the bodies. If it is stamped, it is normally stamped into one of the metal channels that hold the front floor boards for USA cars. [Canadian cars 1926-27 model year style as well as the Australian cars 1926-27 model year style stamped the assembly plant code on the engine side of the firewall about an inch from the radiator support rod.] So if one of your Ts (probably not the 1925 but perhaps the 1926) has a letter or letters on the metal channels – please let us know. Unfortunately the Kansas City, Missouri plant may not have stamped any letters or perhaps “AF” (ref: Dave Sturges’ Model A Ford assembly plant listing at: http://www.mafca.com/downloads/Technical/Assembly%20Plants%20Body%20Number.pdf And for Model T examples please see:
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This cutaway is a 1927 museum engine wearing its original colors.