Best way through Los Angeles

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 06:19 pm:

Two of us from Sacramento are headed for the National Tour in San Diego next weekend (July 13). We will be going through the LA area on SUNDAY the 13th (from an overnight stop in Bakersfield). I would appreciate information on the best route and time to transverse the LA area . Thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 06:31 pm:

Overhead at 35,000 feet.

Sorry Hal, I couldn't resist.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 06:32 pm:

I always go through Arizona:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 06:32 pm:

OK so I am not the only snot here


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 06:37 pm:

hahaha


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dale Peterson on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 06:39 pm:

Are you trailering your T or driving the T?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kirk Peterson on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 07:04 pm:

Hal,
It is Sunday, I would take the San Diego Fwy (405) from the 5 as soon as you get into the San Fernando Valley at Sylmar. Then follow the signs or your GPS down to San Diego.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Scott Owens on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 07:10 pm:

The shortest way is to stay on the 5 all the way. Read the signs as you need to pay attention in the area of the 5 and the 10. The 405 is way out of the way and thru 58 is single lane and not to many places to pull over and it HOT. Have fun, Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kirk Peterson on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 07:21 pm:

California 58 intersects with the 5 100 miles before the 405 and the 5 fork in the San Fernando Valley part of LA. I would not take the 58 either.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach & Big Bear on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 07:21 pm:

Stay on the five and use the diamond lanes go early. DO NOT TRY IT after 4:00 PM unless you can use the diamond lanes. On a Friday afternoon it took me four hours to go 40 miles from the San Fernando Valley to Long Beach. I met a bunch of nice guys :~)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 07:21 pm:

AGB, No, you are not. I was going to say 3am. Bars close at 2am, most of the drunks are passed out by 3am. Gives you about two hours before the sleepy morning rush begins.
The funny thing is. Having lived and driven most of my life in the San Francisco Bay Area, the last time I drove through the L A area (a long time ago), I found that the freeways were much bigger and that there were a lot more cars there. However, the drivers seemed to be a lot less stupid down South. The SFBA it seems everyone thinks they have to jamb their way over to their exit at the last possible second. This results in making traffic backup a lot slower than if they all pulled over and exited as though they had any intelligence whatsoever to plan ahead with (a provable fact, by the way).
Maybe they have gotten worse in the past decade or two?
Hal, Do drive carefully! And please have a great time on the tour!
W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Gould on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 07:31 pm:

I take 5 down to Sylmar and turn left on the Pasadena Freeway, take it out to San Bernadino and turn right and go down 15 (I think) through the north part of San Diego county into San Diego. You can cut the corner and go into Corona rather that go all the way to San Bernadino and perhaps save a bit of time. Takes me about 10 hours from Folsom with stops. I avoid 405 and 5 through LA. They can be a mess. I was there a couple months ago when they had the fires. Not a problem.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 08:33 pm:

Do not take 405. That is one of the slowest freeways in the L.A. area. Two ways I take. One is to take 5 all the way to San Diego. If you go either at night or during the middle of the day 5 is usually good. If however you go between 5 AM and 9 AM or 3 PM and 7 PM, not so good. The 5 flows along smoothly unless there is an accident or they are working on the road.

Another way is just before you get to San Fernando, go east on 210 and follow it all the way to I 15 then south. However Sunday afternoon that is difficult because of the Las Vegas traffic heading home. There is another way, but very confusing if you don't know the area.

I don't know if you can take the diamond lanes if you are pulling a trailer. I do know that they are carpool or toll lanes.

Saturday would probably the best day to travel or Sunday morning because of people going for weekends have usually arrived by Saturday afternoon and they will be coming home Sunday afternoon

Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 08:38 pm:

I would try to get through the LA / Long Beach area before 9:00 AM on Sunday morning. Should be no trouble at that time of day on a Sunday. Having lived there I would say take the 5 all the way.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kirk Peterson on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 09:49 pm:

Just text my little brother, he agreed the Golden State Fwy was the best route. I guess I was thinking about stopping and saying hello to Gene and possibly Ralph in Surf City.
By the way, the Padres are at the Dodgers on the 13th. Dodgers in First place. Game time 1:10 pm. Stadium Way will probably be backed up.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chuck Hoffman - Gold Country of Calif. on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 09:53 pm:

Head over the pass to Reno and go down 395. After you get to the bottom, I don't have a clue.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 09:58 pm:

If your GyPSy has traffic receiver, follow her. Otherwise, www.sigalert.com .

It would be nice to see you again, Hal, after 15 years.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 10:21 pm:

I don't think they allow trailers in the diamond lane! If you could get over to 395 as suggested that would be cool, but if you are staying in Bakersfield, and you leave early enough in the morning, you should be able to navigate the 5 with no problem.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Clayton Swanson on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 10:34 pm:

all these directions, and its no different than any big city.gas up along ways out so no stopping, take the freeway, and do it late at night or very early in the morning. common sense to the country boys


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 11:32 pm:

If you get an early start out of Bakersfield, I expect I-5 on a Sunday morning would be OK. The last time I was on I-210 a couple of years ago, the traffic was as bad as any other freeway, so I'd skip the detour and take I-5 all the way through. Just don't try it too late in the day.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Richmond, Texas on Saturday, July 05, 2014 - 11:51 pm:

Overhead at 35,000 feet; I love it. I'd tell someone the same thing if asked about the best way through Houston.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 12:45 am:

Thanks for the input. Ralph, a short visit would be great but I'm thinking we will motor through the knot known as "the LA area" and get settled in our digs in SD. I am inclined to go with I-5 all the way as suggested by Royce, Kirk, Norman and Frank. I'm old enough to be a little squeamish about the LA portion of the trip. BTW, I will be pulling the trailer with a 2011 GC Overland Summit (Jeep) with a 350Hp Hemi V8, and it has a GPS. (I'm not sure about the traffic input. I'll ck it out.)

again THANKS


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Clipner-Los Angeles on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 02:01 am:

You can go one of two ways, either stay on the I-5 or you can pick up the 405 on the outskirts of LA. Both will get you thru. George n L.A.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gene Carrothers Huntington Beach on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 02:33 am:

Hal, Check out the link RDR posted and you'll see that the 5 is slightly shorter BUT there are a lot of interchanges which are tricky especially pulling a trailer in an area you're not familiar with. It's an old freeway with not many lanes so gets crowded and backed up easy.

My advice is to take the 405 cause it is a lot wider freeway and a much easier drive. I see right now there are a couple of spots even now showing red on the 5.

See you there!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 08:22 am:

Good point by Gene about the condition of the roads. I wasn't considering that and pulling a trailer. Much of the time I-405 is the world's largest parking lot, but early on a Sunday it should be clear sailing. Wave at Larry in Lomita and Kim in Harbor City as you drive by.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 10:10 am:

The problem with going to the beach in summer on a Sunday is that early in the morning people will be going there to stake out a space on the sand. That is one reason for avoiding 405. A true story, I went to see a cousin in Laguna Nigel on the way north. I left there before noon Went to Laguna Beach and then over to the 405. We spent the next night at Thousand Oaks in the San Fernando Valley. It took all afternoon to do the 405 in summer.

Early morning on I 5 is best and fastest way through. Maybe Ralph and Gene could meet you somewhere for breakfast along I 5. However pulling a trailer also poses a parking problem.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 10:14 am:

If the Gene you refer to is Gene Carrothers, he is scheduled to be on the tour.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brent Burger on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 11:42 am:

If the Gene you refer to is not Gene Carrothers, it is likely someone else ! ;-)

Take the 5, don't go thru at rush hour. Too easy.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tony Bowker on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 11:47 am:

When I go to the Bakersfield swap meet from San Diego I go up I15, then US395, and then 58 into Bakersfield. It is about 30 miles longer than following I5.
So I suggest following the reverse route
Take 58 east
395south
I15 to San Diego

By the way once in San Diego, take I15 to Aero Drive, go west and the hotel is on the right after about the fifth traffic light.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 12:58 pm:

395 is narrow and hilly, mostly single lane until you get to Victorville, which is full of stoplights. It gets real windy there, too. The hundreds of windmills between Tehachapi and Mojave are turning almost all the time. 58 is pretty desolate. I think there's only one gas station between Tehachapi and Victorville.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tony Bowker on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 01:22 pm:

When I go to the Bakersfield swap meet from San Diego I go up I15, then US395, and then 58 into Bakersfield. It is about 30 miles longer than following I5.
So I suggest following the reverse route
Take 58 east
395south
I15 to San Diego

By the way once in San Diego, take I15 to Aero Drive, go west and the hotel is on the right after about the fifth traffic light.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gene Carrothers Huntington Beach on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 01:23 pm:

This is the real Gene in Huntington Beach who lives very close to RDR who both live close to the famed 405. Yes I'll be at the National Tour in Sandy Eggo.

I just looked at the sigalert channel and all freeways look open and traffic running at normal speeds which is usually North of 75mph.

Take your pick but when I drive to Bakersfield it's always on the 405. You'll find the old 5 is an outdated freeway with a lot of last minute lane changes to get over to the right or left lane to make the connection to stay on the 5. Those spots will usually be slowed down with merging traffic.

Your driving thru at the best possible time.
You can return using the alternate route so you'll understand what I mean.

Another thought is when your pulling that trailer you don't want to be driving in some of our freeway lanes that have been shrunk down to fit that extra lane. Of course that's not true if you like the pucker effect of having to get the trailer thru between a semi and cars with a couple of inches clear on each side.

Be careful check, those trailer tires and I'll see you there!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 03:53 pm:

Pick a route and memorize it. Several suggestions have been offered. Just don't get mixed up. If you can get sig alerts, the morning of your trip, it might help you select the best route.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 07:54 pm:

Hal here is the map I use when I go to LA. I know it is from 1900, but there are a lot of short cuts.It usually only takes me two days to get through LA, but that was great time in 1900, and it's good enough for me. Mark


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Danial - Veneta OR US Earth Solar System on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 09:00 pm:

Good grief Mark. Weren't the Spaniards still trying to steal the Aztecs' lands when that map was made?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Schedler, Sacramento on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 02:12 am:

Thanks again...Gene, someone up there suggested staying off of the 405, I B a bit confused now ... When I went on the Great Race with RDR I came cruising down I-5 dumb and happy in the "slow" lane. All of a sudden my lane and about 4 others decided I had to go right on what I think was the 405. I made it across all of those lanes and stayed on I-5 but it caused a bunch of laundry bills, including mine. My Jeep has a good GPS with Sirius traffic input so I think I'll be OK.

All U good guys move inland and then I'll pray for some kind of tremor to dump the LA area into the ocean....That would take care
of a lot of traffic problems, wouldn't it?

Gene I look forward to seeing U in SD... Is the hotel really $189 a night? That times 6 is at least two sets of 30 X 3 1/2's.

Norm, thanks for the advice.

That 1900 map of LA is about as old as some of the maps in my glove box.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brent Burger on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 11:11 am:

Dump the Jeep, take the T with a 1920 map, and go through L.A. in 1920. Much less traffic (likely a lot of cars you'd LIKE to see) and the scenery would be awesome. What's the problem ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Clipner-Los Angeles on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 11:44 pm:

Yeah, you can wave at me also, I'm at the Venice exit just south of the I-10, Santa Monica Fwy.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Carl Sorenson-Lake Arrowhead,CA on Thursday, July 10, 2014 - 11:01 am:

My VOTE.....Sunday am,,,take the 5 all the way down...There is construction on the 15 from the top of Cajon Pass all the way down.....Just came through there Tuesday....Get up early and you'll roll through town fine......Carl


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Thursday, July 10, 2014 - 12:57 pm:

George - I will be visiting my son in LA (Hollywood - Beverly Hills area)with my family on Aug 8 and 9
I am sure to pass by the Venice exit on 405 a few times because we are staying at the LAX Courtyard so we will wave and I'll have everyone cheer

My grand daughters want to put their toes in the Pacific ocean (Santa Monica or Malibu Beach).
My wife wants to drive Mulholland and spend some time at the Grove. My daughter wants to spend a bit of time in Franklin Canyon park and see my son's friends place on N Beverly drive. I want them to see Rodeo Drive, Sunset,and Hollywood Blvd, so we will be all over he place.

It might be best if you stay off the roads on that Friday and Saturday because it will be dangerous! :-)


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