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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 01:17 am:

Okay, I understand that the World Cup matches in Brazil are not being followed by most Americans, although they are by some. It's down to the semi-finals and, after a cliffhanger match between the Netherlands and Costa Rica today, the four countries still competing are Brazil, Germany, Argentina and the Netherlands. I can't remember for sure about Brazil, but I know that we have forum participants from the other three countries. Next Wednesday, Brazil will play Germany and the Netherlands will play Argentina to determine who meets in the final.

While I certainly wish any Model T owner all the best, I am hoping that Toon Boer, Cees Steeman and I - along with all the other Dutch forum participants - will be very happy on July 13th.... :-)



"Hup, Holland, Hup! Laat de leeuw niet in z'n hempie staan.... "


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Anthonie Boer on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 02:20 am:

Dick , Als ik de foto goed bekijk ziet het er naar uit dat julie Holland nog niet vergeten zijn !!!!!!!!!
groeten van uit Klaaswaal
Ditty en Toon


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warwick Landy on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 03:40 am:

Good luck Dick. With the Aussies out the Dutchies are my next choice. Both my boys play soccer in preference to Aussie rules football .


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 11:25 am:

Dick

That was a great game, and the Netherlands goalie was superb during the PK's.. great win.

Yep, I am one of the millions in the USA that follow World Cup. Will be in Boone NC on the MTFCI national tour....but on Sunday the 13th won't be behind the wheel of my T, instead will be seated in a sports bar to view the final!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 05:28 pm:

Toon, het wordt spannend... During NL-Costa Rica, we had bitterballen that my daughter and son-in-law made (first attempt, delicious - voor herhaling vatbaar!) and filet Américan that I brought, plus other food and (of course) beer and wine. No, we have not forgotten Holland!!

Warwick and Dan, thanks for your support. We only have to do it twice more.... :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chuck Hoffman - Gold Country of Calif. on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 05:36 pm:

What's a world cup?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 05:43 pm:

Big wine glass?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 05:51 pm:

Fred is fairly close. If the team in orange wins two more games, Dutch people around the world will drink a whole lot of wine (and beer and other stuff, for that matter).... :-)

Next Tuesday with Argentina:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 06:01 pm:

Who was that giant goalie the Dutch put in just for the free kicks? Seems unfair.

The games are only half as boring when you play them back FF double time.

I'm not a spectator of American "sports," either. I never could see paying to watch somebody else have fun.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 06:39 pm:

Ralph, it was a substitution during the game. I understand it is considered to have been a very smart move. The charge that soccer is boring because of the lack of scoring reminds me of the story of the woman who arrived at a baseball game in the sixth inning and asked what the score was. When told it was 0-0, she said, "Oh, good! We haven't missed anything...." :-)

After all, at world-class, top-level play (which this is), you have to expect very evenly matched teams. That pretty much precludes lopsided scores. I also think that watching any game whose rules, strategy and tactics you aren't very familiar with is probably going to be boring, regardless of the sport. On the other hand, these guys basically run at top speed for 45 minutes, take a half-time break, and then do the same thing for another 45 minutes. Heck, I get exhausted just watching them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 06:41 pm:

P.S. Using "giant" and "Dutch" in the same sentence is redundant. Currently, the Dutch are the tallest nationality in the world. I am keenly aware of that when I attend Dutch events.... :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gabriel Tamarit - Argentina on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 06:58 pm:

My father, my uncle and some other restorers taking a break at the workshop to see the match. Good luck next wednesday!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 07:12 pm:

Gabriel, glad to see you in this discussion...

A member of our local Dutch community here wondered if next Wednesday would be a problem for the Dutch royal family. King Willem-Alexander is 100% Dutch, of course, but Queen Máxima - though Dutch now - is originally from Argentina.



I look forward to a great match next Wednesday. Good luck to you as well!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gabriel Tamarit - Argentina on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 07:23 pm:

Dick, I think it will be difficult for Maxima to hide happiness if Argentina scores. I hope it won´t be inconvenient for Dutch Royal House :-). Anyway, it will be a classic World Cup game, enjoy it!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 07:40 pm:

Gabriel, I have to think you are right. At their wedding in 2002, "Adios Nonino" was played. If you watch her reaction starting at about 2:50, you can see that (to paraphrase a popular American expression), "You can take the girl out of Argentina, but you can't take Argentina out of the girl."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJWD_789-OE

I think she has the best of both worlds. She can be happy with every goal scored and with whoever wins.... :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gabriel Tamarit - Argentina on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 09:40 am:

Dick, it´s nice to see Maxima hearing "Adios Nonino". Clearly it was an special moment to her. Thank you for the reference.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 10:19 am:

I will be glad when it's over and sanity returns to the streets here :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 11:39 am:

I have to admit that many people I know that aren't into sports were into this. I'm not one of them. Most claimed America is finally getting into soccer. Doubt it. Passing fad.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 06:01 pm:

Charlie, I expect that some of that is the same thing that happens during the Olympics. Especially now that the US is getting better at soccer at the top level, national pride kicks in. All my interest in any sport is that kind of tribal. If the Cardinals are in the World Series, I'm a baseball fan. Same with the Rams and the Super Bowl and the Blues and the Stanley Cup. With World Cup soccer, I am lucky. I lived in Holland for over eight years and was married to a Dutch sports fanatic for over 40 years. The Dutch have a shot at the whole shebang this year - they just have to win two more games (although they will be hard ones). If we win against Argentina Wednesday, the final will be between Holland and either Germany or Brazil (depending on who wins Tuesday).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 06:39 pm:

When it comes to soccer, what is a yellow card?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 07:05 pm:

My less-than-expert understanding is: a yellow card in a game is a warning to a player. If the same player gets a second yellow card, he is out of the game for the duration. A red card sends him out immediately. I have gathered that a yellow card to a player in World Cup play means that he cannot play in the next game his team is in. At this level, that can be serious. (If this is wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me.)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gabriel Tamarit - Argentina on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 07:14 pm:

Dick, you cannot play in the next game if you receive a red card in one game or two yellow cards in different games.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 07:17 pm:

Gabriel, Máxima is enormously popular in Holland, as is her husband. She has definitely won the hearts of the people. Her Dutch is excellent. Probably the best thing Argentina has ever exported to the Netherlands.... :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZXCPa1Rp_8

King Willem-Alexander was a member of the International Olympic Committee for a number of years as Crown Prince and only stepped down last year when he became King. At the Winter Olympics, he presented the medals to some of the Dutch speed skaters. Pretty neat to win a medal and then have your King put it around your neck...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 07:28 pm:

Thank you, Gabriel. (Our forum posts crossed.)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Phillips on Tuesday, July 08, 2014 - 06:36 pm:

Breaking News - Lou Vincent resigns as manager of Brazil.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 08:00 pm:

Gabriel, congratulations on the win! It was certainly close game. I don't really like it when they go to penalty shots, but if no one scores in 120 minutes.....

Good luck Sunday!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 08:14 pm:

Where was the Dutch goalie?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gabriel Tamarit - Argentina on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 08:40 pm:

Thank you Dick! It was a very close game, no one wanted to attack too much because they knew about the power of the other team. In penalty shots, it´s always sad... We are really happy here, people is celebrating in all the streets of the country. Thank you for the good wishes!!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 09:16 pm:

Ralph, Van Gaal had used all his substitutions and had to stay with the game goalie.

Gabriel, yes, it was close. Messi and Robben were so well guarded they must have started to feel claustrophobic! Hey, it happens. Penalty shots have Holland a win over Costa Rica, and gave Argentina a win over Holland.

A Dutch friend of mine changed his Facebook profile picture to this. I think it sums up the way Dutch people feel about their team:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, July 13, 2014 - 09:42 pm:

Gabriel, my condolences on the outcome. They were two well-matched teams and it could have gone either way. My loyalties were divided. A Dutch friend of mine has a wife from Argentina, and the Queen is from Argentina. On the other hand, while it is hard for a Dutch fan to support Germany :-) , I was happy to see a European team finally win a cup in South America.

A good World Cup. ¡Hasta cuatro años!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Sunday, July 13, 2014 - 10:09 pm:

It was hardly the rout the commentators were predicting.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Lodge - St Louis MO on Sunday, July 13, 2014 - 10:48 pm:

Ralph, quite right. Two very evenly matched teams...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gabriel Tamarit - Argentina on Monday, July 14, 2014 - 09:39 am:

Thank you Dick for your condelences. It is hard for us right now, but I´m really proud of our boys. They´re did the best they could. Anyway, I think it was a great World Cup. I´m looking forward for the next one!


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