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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Scott Owens on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 01:01 am:

Ok Iam almost ready for a drive. This Coupe has been in storage for over 35 years. The motor was challenge. Stuck tight. Took a while but got it to turn over. Pulled the head, pistons, valves, starter and cleaned everything up, It now has great compression and it started right up. So I want to know if the seat can be moved up and or back? I will try to move it under its own power tomorrow to see what else needs to be done. But the seat bottom does not set right and I would like to be up closer a tad. Thanks for any help, Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Richmond, Texas on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 01:05 am:

Do you have a copy of the original Ford Service Manual, In the segment about the improved cars, it mentions seat adjustment.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 08:16 am:

There are 2 adjustments. Remove the backrest portion of the seat. The rail on which the back of the seat sits can be adjusted to 2 locations on its' supports and held in place by screws, which will give you more or less room for your lower back depending on which setting you decide on. The upper portion of the backrest does not adjust. It remains the same against the rear shelf upon which it hangs.

The seat will automatically fit whatever of the 2 setting you choose. Under the seat front, drilled into the wooden seat frame are 4 strategically placed holes, 2 of which will fit onto 2 steel pegs located on top of the raised steel front seat support just behind the floorboard. If you move the backrest shelf all the way back, the rear of the seat will sit on the shelf just under the backrest with the 2 holes closest to the front edge of the seat fitting into the front support pegs. On the closest setting, the 2 holes farthest from the front edge of the seat will fit over the pegs. You might have to smack the front of the seat to force it under the base of the backrest until it drops onto the pegs as it is a tight fit. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 08:22 am:

PS. If you wanted to make more room for yourself for your upper back and shoulders, it would require that you custom make a more shallow rear shelf using the original rear shelf as a pattern and install it using the same hanging hardware from your original shelf. I've never done it but, conceivably, that could give you several more inches for your shoulders and a more comfortable backrest incline. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 08:54 am:

If you just need to be able to press the pedals better you could put some of these extensions on each pedal. Simple and easy and no permanent modification to the seat.

http://www.modeltford.com/item/3439EX.aspx


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 09:06 am:

Here are a couple of pictures of the trunk of my coupe. In the top picture, you can see the left side seat adjustment just in front of the battery access hatch. There is an identical adjustment on the right side. My seat is adjusted to the forward adjustment. If I wanted to, I could loosen the screws and move the shelf back as I described for a little more room, which might help, but even at 6'3", I have never had any trouble driving my T, so have never felt the need to move it back. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 09:23 am:

Jim ,nice pics of your Coupe's trunk area.
Your car must not have had must rust out when you acquired it.

Down here in Texas the ones I have seen seem to have a lot of rust out. That was years ago when I was scouring the country looking for the remains of T's looking for parts for my 24 Coupe and 1919 Runabout.

That was back in the days before much of the sheet metal was being made for T's.
You have a nice car going by the other pics you have posted of it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 10:52 am:

Thank you John. I wish you could have seen it when I first purchased it in 1970. Unfortunately, back then I didn't realize the value of taking before pictures, but if you had seen it back then before I got started on it, you would be incredulous.

While it was complete, it was totally covered in thick rust and deep pits, with the lower 4" of the entire body, all the way around, including the doors, rusted through. The body and fenders was also covered in dents and one of the front fenders was ripped. You can see by the rivet heads, where new steel was riveted in place in the rear wheel wells just above the trunk floor on each side. I like to imagine that it had been used a a rum runner back in the 20's because there were two 1/2" bullet holes going in the body just behind the passenger door and one bullet hole exiting out the body just behind the driver's door. All the glass was broken out and all the wood, except for the spokes was rotten. As bad as it was, it was the first Model T I had ever been that close to and I fell in love with it and paid the seller my life savings of $600.00 on the spot (he wanted $650.00 but $600.00 is all I had).

Luckily, at the time, I was neighbors with a 75 year old man (born in 1895) named Mr. Moore who was a master mechanic, welder, body worker, painter and woodworker who coincidentally worked for Ford in his 20's unloading Model T's from boxcars in the 1910's and 1920's and would touch up the paint and do repairs to them. He said that they would arrive tacky and covered in hay that he would have to clean off and touchup before transporting them to the dealership. He fell in love with my T and did much of the work on it, including, making the wooden top from scratch and from memory. while I watched and learned. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 10:53 am:

PS. You can't see it very well, but my trunk did not have a hold open latch for the lid, so, Mr. Moore made one from memory. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Scott Owens on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 11:04 am:

Thanks for the pictures Jim. At 5 foot 5 fitting in is not the problem. Iam looking out at the B piller and was hoping to sit a bit closer so as to look out the window instead of around it. I will finish changing the throttle linkage over to fit the NH as it came with a vaporizer today and see how all this works out. The seat bottom has been changed by the last owner and is not stock. It sits very low in the back so I now have the info I needed to fix things. Thanks everyone for your help, Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 11:45 am:

Robert, if it sits very low in the back, it is possible that, whoever installed the bench seat, did not make sure the rear of the bench frame was resting on the ledge which it should share with the backrest. If they failed to do this, the back of the bench seat may be sitting on the floor of the trunk, which is, indeed, very low, even for me.

If someone replaced the original bench seat with one that does not fit properly with the configuration designed into the 1926-'27 seat design, You may need to get a proper 1926-'27 bench frame and seat springs from one of the vendors (Snyder's PN #TS-7005). If you provide me with your address, I can send you a tracing and peg hole position for the wooden base of my 1926 bench seat. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Scott Owens on Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 06:24 pm:

Ok, For those that have heard me rattle on about this Coupe I just got my first drive. Starts right up, smooth and idles fine. All the pedals do what Henry wanted. Good brakes. Ruxtell works a little stiff but I will get things lubed up. Goes down the road just fine, plenty of power and still has the cast iron pistons. So I had a Root Beer caused I quit drinking 25 years ago. Now the fun begins. Thank everyone who has help, Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Thursday, July 10, 2014 - 09:07 am:

Congratulations Scott. It is always exciting to get your T running and driving it for the first time. I well recall the first time I ever started my T up after a 2 year restoration. The most exciting and rewarding experience in my life up to that point. That feeling is our reward for the many hours and small fortune we have spent getting to this point. Jim Patrick


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