Axle gear mystery and help needed

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Axle gear mystery and help needed
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Bohlen, Severn MD on Friday, July 11, 2014 - 12:58 pm:

Ok in need of the collective wisdom of Forum.

I have a question concerning axle gears. Starting to put together a Ruckstell and have all the parts from what appears to be a lightly used solid unit. Only problem was the rear was at one time stored outside with the drive shaft facing up and water got down the drive shaft tube and laid in the differential. No real damage just some rust and pitting on the axle gears and spider gears. I bought what I thought were nearly NOS axle gears and found a excellent set of spider gears….Here’s the problem.

Last night when starting assembly by the book, when the two parts of the inner carrier were put together and the axles turned it made a terrible clicking as the spiders did not want to mesh smoothly with the axle gears. Now here the kicker, the axle gears are beautiful but the teeth seem to be a just ever so much larger then another axle gear we had handy which as a good usable example that is a Ford script part. The other two gears DO NOT have scripts on them.

So what do I have?
Model A gears?
Bad repops. I know back in the day late ‘70s early ‘80s gears were made in Argentina and where not the best quality.
Or just some other no name spurious parts that Henry warned us about? The shame is these gears are beautiful but noisy and just can’t be right.

Has anyone out there encountered something similar?

Anybody have a good Ford script axle gear they would part with?

Thanks in advance.
Larry


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Friday, July 11, 2014 - 09:36 pm:

Wont be Model A as the axle gears are machined as part of the axle. Beyond that, can't help. Sorry


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Morsher on Friday, July 11, 2014 - 09:39 pm:

Model A gears are integral with the axle shaft. They do not remove.

Going from old memory, but I think some chebby axles are very close and can be mistaken for model T axles.

Some of the early ford carrier parts and axles and gears do not readily interchange with later parts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Bohlen, Severn MD on Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 02:52 pm:

Mark/Tim,

Thanks for the reply.
I was not sure about the model A axles (I've never worked on one) this was just very strange, these gears looked great fit on the brand new T axles fine they just don't want to mesh with the spiders exactly the way they should. Weird.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 03:17 pm:

One thing you do not mention. Do you have the spacer between the ends of the axles? If the gears are too close together it could cause binding.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Bohlen, Severn MD on Saturday, July 12, 2014 - 05:48 pm:

Norm,

Yes we did. The axle gears I was using were great looking but not Ford script. I'm going to get two script gears and see how they fit. I was hoping Stan would chime in, he has the most experience with these things from what I can tell.

Larry


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