Yet another question, This 1924 engine I helping this fellow with has no rod dippers. Should I have him buy new dippers for it or do you guys feel he can do without them?
Do the rod caps have holes in them for the dippers?
You will get lots of answers on this....and to me they are all correct, but just remember, the engines did fine for a very long time when they left the factory with no dippers...
Will, I guess some will say, 'well, Ford didn't install them until late in 27 when they redesigned the piston and rod caps, but if his rod caps are drilled for dippers, I think they should be installed. Now, if the crank is drilled and its a pressurized engine, that changes things drastically.
Thanks guys, I will leave it dipperles
Will, Here's two ideas. What do you think those dippers are dipping into? There is so wind in the crankcase that there is probably no puddle of oil to dip into, maybe some mist. The rod bolt probably pushes the oil away from the front of the dipper anyway.
Most of the Montana 500 guys don't run dippers, I've been told.
I have dippers in my engine with holes drilled top and bottom so take your pick.
You didn't say if you have a 3 or 4 dip pan but that's another thought.
I have installed them with every engine I build. Do they do anything? Don't know. I just have a hard time believing the oil pan galleys stay full enough to supply a constant pool of oil to those little scoops. But could not hurt.
Figure, the T engine ran without out them for 100 years.
Its a 4 dip pan.
Why did ford install them in 1927 ?
The chevys that had dippers also had a oil pump that pushed oil thru tubes aimed at the dippers. A few years back someone made a clear inspection cover and observed the result. Best I remember, above a fast idle there was no oil to be seen in the dips, just a fog of oil going everywhere. KGB
Gene, I would venture to guess 99% of the Montana 500 guys run rod dippers.
Ya, Mike you are right. I didn't mean "don't". It's amazing how that changes the meaning.
Think it called proof reading.
The question I have always had is why did Ford take away the dippers in the early engine just to put them back on in the last two years of production? Then also use the dippers on 5 million model a Fords that turn more rpm. Wouldn't the hv oil kit from Texas T parts keep the dip pan a tad more full?