Upholstery Question

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Upholstery Question
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Tuesday, July 15, 2014 - 06:55 pm:

My upholstery in the '27 roadster has always been bad so I saved up and got the new backrest springs because the old ones were poking through. also got a new cartouche upholstery kit figured the cushion springs were ok the old "upholstery" was just vinyl cut and hog-ringed to the springs. I wasn't expecting that the backrest springs were not attached to anything

I was thinking there was supposed to be some kind of wood framing that the springs were nailed or stapled to. Then I discovered that the cushion springs are not the correct springs they do not "flare" out toward the back of the seat pan they are almost square I think maybe they are for the rear cushion on a touring car can anyone post a picture of the wood frame and longshot maybe identify these springs?

Why do my projects always have to go south before going north?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Tuesday, July 15, 2014 - 07:35 pm:

GR, it may be that you have the spring assembly wrong way round. If the fixed frame goes to the body, the loose ends of the spring can be stitched to a hessian cover to hold them where they need to be, and this cover is then tacked to the trim strip in the body. That is the way it is done on many of the colonial bodies in Australia.

Hope this helps.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chuck Hoffman - Gold Country of Calif. on Tuesday, July 15, 2014 - 09:03 pm:

wood


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 06:49 am:

Thank you Chuck that is what I needed to see a lot simpler than I thought


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 11:15 am:

You should have used Classtique. Cartouche has a bad reputation. I hope it works for you.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 11:30 am:

Larry to each his own but I have found with upholstery that installation technique time and knowledge have more to do with it as long as the materials are of good quality and besides anything with any padding at all will be better than the Half Fast stuff that was in there before I'll post pictures when I'm done. (from Mama: " after the item has been purchased if you can't say something nice say nothing!)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 11:34 am:

If you decide to make the wood support structure yourself, don't build it up too thick, which would push the seat back forward and cut into your legroom.

Here was my first attempt, which pushed the seat back too far forward, sorry for the poor focus:

seat01

Here was my second and final attempt, I used thinner, but wider slats and mounted them behind the bottom wood on the seat base. I also eliminated the plywood on the seat base, this lowered the front of the seat, giving me more clearance between my legs and the bottom of the steering wheel.

seat02

My car came with an un-installed Cartouche seat kit when I bought it, so that's what I installed. Be sure to buy and add extra cotton padding, the kit does not come with enough. Also, don't be afraid to redistribute the padding as required to fill out all the hollows and thin spots.

Here is how mine came out, I should have added even more padding than I did. Good luck!

seat03


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 11:41 am:

Thanks Mark


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Miller, Mostly in Dearborn on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 11:43 am:

I keep looking at the first photo and wonder if this:


is this:



My '26 does not have a horizontal steel brace in the seatback. It has the tack strip at the bottom and the three verticals that Chuck shows.

Look over the buttons in your Cartouche kit. I don't know about the current kits, but earlier ones I saw had buttons that had a pressed on cap. With people sliding across the seat, these caps popped off and left a shiny back visible. I don't know if this design was ever changed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 12:11 pm:

Tom that makes more sense I was wondering about that metal brace I took my turtle off to re do it and that brace isn't there but it did have marks like something should have been there mystery solved when I can afford it my turtle will be media blasted ( to remove 2 gallons of bondo ) then I will determine if it can be saved by my skills so for the time being it is a dump bed pick-up


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dale L Myers on Wednesday, July 16, 2014 - 01:38 pm:

Here are some photos I saved from other posts on the subject. Sorry I can't give proper credit.



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