Valders WI Model T era firefighting-Photo

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Saturday, July 19, 2014 - 11:05 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Robert Scott Owens on Saturday, July 19, 2014 - 11:55 pm:

So is the T motor running the pump? If so thats impressive. Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Sunday, July 20, 2014 - 07:49 am:

The local volunteer fire department found and restored there original 1924 Model T fire truck. They use it in parades and take it to shows and special events. It pumps enough pressure to knock you down if you do not have a good hold on the hose and you feet planted firmly on the ground. If you look at the photo it looks like each man holding a hose has his feet slightly spread and both hands on the hose.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James A. Golden on Sunday, July 20, 2014 - 08:24 am:

Looks like a Waterous.

Dennis please post a restored photo.

This is my home town original 1921 Waterous.

Waterous


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Sunday, July 20, 2014 - 08:42 am:

Robert,

Yes, on a "Pumper" Model T Fire truck the Model T Engine had a power take-off that allowed it to run the water pump. (Please hold the comments about water pumps are not necessary on a Model T – different size pump and function.) Several companies produced fire trucks on the TT chassis. Some were only chemical trucks that did not have a pump capability. Instead they had some large tanks that acted like the old hand held soda and water fire extinguishers but on a much larger scale. Some had a pump. And some had both the chemical tank(s) and pump. The two photos posted above appear to both be “Pumpers” as you can see the large diameter intake fitting at the lower left of both photos. Other companies placed the pump and intake near the middle of the truck.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brass car guy on Sunday, July 20, 2014 - 11:24 am:

The Waterious Pump drive system was quite interesting. The pump was mounted just ahead of the tail board, hence the in and out hoses on the side of the body.

Now here's the interesting part. These model T's had an open drive line, no torque tube. There were 2 parollel drive shafts one connected to the rear end and the other slightly off set and connected to the pump.

There was a shift lever on the floor board just behind the transmission ball cap. This was a forked handle that had a bridle that supported the front end of both shafts at the same time and would disengage the motor drive shaft and engage the pump shaft for operating the pump. The actual drive was accomplished by a 4 eared crude universal with a fork shape on the end of the shift lever. The fork would slide the drive shaft cross back and over and at the same time move the pump shaft into position and engage it to the rear of the transmission.

just sayin'

brasscarguy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James A. Golden on Sunday, July 20, 2014 - 08:03 pm:

Here are some photos of that shift mechanism.

Shift

Side


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray Syverson on Tuesday, July 22, 2014 - 09:52 am:

I think the fire truck in the old photo may be from Valders, Wisconsin. Valders was settled by Norwegians from the Valders/Valdres area in Norway. I have some ancestors from Valders.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warren W. Mortensen on Tuesday, July 22, 2014 - 06:17 pm:

Third guy from the left: Does he have a fire hose? LOL


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Tuesday, July 22, 2014 - 07:07 pm:

Warren
He's holding the small hose that is from the hose real on the truck.

Bob


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