I have been a proud owner of a 1917 Model T Ford Canopy Express Delivery for the past five years and always see post from new Model T collectors being told that Model Ts are addictive and once you own one you will want to own more. I have also read on this forum that Model Ts left alone will multiple. It has been almost a month since I parked Sambuca in the barn (because I was having rear end problems), with an empty stall beside him. Now I'm wondering if he has become religious and "gone forth and multiplied". This would be a very good thing, as I love all my children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. I thought of have Sambuca's offspring is over whelming. But, now here's the question "how does this happen"?
Tell the doctor that you don't want any more rear end problems.
Warren, we never question the phenomenon. The minute we start to question any validity of anything concerning multiple ownership of the Model T Ford we run the risk of exciting and bringing forth the wrath of the female of our species.
Considering our T's are close to a 100 years old if they are still trying to "multiply" then it is obvious what caused the rear end to go out. Arthritis. The old babbit just cant take it anymore.
Did neighbors report missing purple pills by any chance?
(A booming voice from above)
"HAVE FAITH, MY SON. GOOD Ts COME TO THOSE WHO WAIT. NOAH'S FAITH HELPED HIM PART THE RED SEA. YOUR FAITH WILL HELP YOU YOU FIND A RED T. AND REMEMBER THE T COMMANDMENTS:
1. Thou shalt have no other cars before Ts.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any Chebby image, or any likeness of any thing that is not T, in heaven or anywhere else.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of Ford in vain.
4. Remember the maintenance day, to keep your Ford rolling.
5. Honour thy father and thy mother for they gave you the curiosity you needed to learn about Ts.
6. Thou shalt not kill a Model T engine while showing it off to friends.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery by driving a friend's antique Chebby.
8. Thou shalt not steal Model T parts from the "Midnight Auto Supply".
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. If his T looks good, tell him. If it's a basket case, you can tell him that too.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s. But it is perfectly OK to ask for a ride in his new Model T.
(with absolutely no disrespect intended to our friends of faith here - all in good fun only!)
It could be as easy as making a pilgrimage to Central Minnesota. I'm quite certain that a fellow with proper financial credentials could head home with a beautiful '12 Touring, a '24 touring, a '22 Coupe or a nice '17 Touring project. If you bring a big enough trailer, you can take all four of them home at one time.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of Ford in vain.
I can count the number of Fords I like on my fingers and barely get off the first hand ...
Black-era T's , 1940, 57 Fairlane, baby birds, 60-61 Starliner, 63 Galaxie, 65-66 Galaxie, 66 Mustang fastback, and out of that list, only the T would be a vehicle I'd own. Ford made notoriously cheap cars. After the T, they were increasingly paraded about as something more, when they really were just cheesy, cheap cars. The T was an HONEST cheap car, and for this, I respect it enough to own one (or ten !) The rest, ... not so much.
Burger, is that why so many more '28
through 40 Dodges, Chevies and others are still with us today?
How nay 30's GM & Chryslers and Hudsons & Packards have you seen lately? Or Studebakers & Erskins? Include Nash in that, in '23 they were the 3rd largest car producer in the U.S. Where are they now?
Maybe there are 100 '23 T Fords for every '23 Nash? Or Buick or Pontiac.
Moses' faith parted the Red Sea. Noah floated on the flood.
Burger, I have been a GM and Mopar man for the most part most of my life. But not because of reliability versus the dollars spent. Ford has consistently made a better product over the years, hands down.
I prefer GM and Mopar styling and performance to be honest, but Ford simply makes a better product when it comes to reliability and workmanship.
After my last new GM purchase (2004 Monte Carlo) it's doubtful I will ever buy a new GM product again. Not trying to start a pissin' match, it is what it is.
Oops, thanks Robert. The booming voice got me all atwitter evidently.
Thanks, Robert. You beat me to it.
Burger, I still say the best ford is a '72 model - my wife's mad in name was Ford. Her sister was also a Ford (obviously) but became an Austin when she married!
maiden name not mad in name.
I'm blaming auto correct.
I'm afraid we have digressed from my main question of how this phenomenon of "“Going forth and multiply” is accomplished. John, Mike, Mark, Danial and Eric's answers I liked the best. Mark's "we never question the phenomenon", was very good, but still did not explain exactly what was going on behind (there's that word again) my back. As for Eric's "It could be as easy as making a pilgrimage to Central Minnesota", I have only one question, where are the banks in central Minnesota located? Lastly as to the other topic discussed, I am compelled to say something about my 1957 Buick Roadmaster and that is it is one of the finest automobiles ever produced in Detroit, or the rest of world for that matter. Check out this short video to see if you agree:
Warren: It happens mostly because of the T's age, They want to talk to others who understand the events of decades past! then one thing leads to another and one T tells the other Hey, come on over to my place I have a Human that is very attentive and is fair to middlen with a wrench and I guarantee He'll have you felling like a youngster again in no time... and that is how it happens!
My theory is that as you go through the process of restoring or improving your first T, you start gathering parts. As you learn more, you start spotting "bargains" at the swap meet and convince yourself that having a spare frame/body/engine/wheels/whatever would be a good idea (as backup for your first car, of course). Eventually you look at the pile of parts that you've accumulated and realize that with just a little work, you could almost build another car!
Another phenomenon that affects many first timers is that they buy a project car because of its low initial price, then invest gobs of money in its restoration. They then realize that they would have been better off buying a finished or nearly finished car, and when one at a good price pops up they spring for it.
Those are my theories, anyway.
I just have a bad habit of visiting Hemmings, E-bay (I know, sigh) and cars online dot com way too many times!
I discussed this with my "live-in-doctor (aka wife with a PhD in domestic violence)
She said that the only thing YOU can do is to control YOURSELF by limiting the number of Model T's you purchase.
It has little to do with Sambuca, it is all about YOU becoming addicted!
The first step is for YOU to admit that YOU have a problem.
The second step is for YOU to decide to do something about it.
The third step is for YOU to take action to fix it.
Remember - It is up to YOU fix YOUR problem.
My wife recommended that YOU do not allow extra space in the garage because YOU will find a away to fill it.
I know she is correct because one day I figured that with a little readjustment I could fit two T's in my side of the garage and soon after a Model A filled the spot. (The A was OK because she is the younger sister of the T and they lived together for close to 50 years)
It required that I move a few things to my wife's side of the garage, but she understood and was kind enough to help me with my addiction as long as her van would fit.
It helped when my wife said that she could see herself driving the A -
Thus I will warn YOU that the addiction can not be cured and it can be passed on to others.
I can understand the T addiction. But acceptance of period technology and limitations plays a big part in making a T so attractive. Not so much with a 53, 57, 59 ... all of which I have owned and intimately familiarized myself with. Underpowered, GROSSLY underbraked, sloppy handling ... these were not a "better product". They were sub-par products, paraded as first class. I have also owned Packards, Plymouths, DeSotos, and Dodges (to name a few). Most would SMOKE a comparable Ford in every way, from seat fabrics to fuel pump accessibility to emergency stopping.
Not every Beatles song is great. Ford had a few good ones, but hero worship for all Fords is like following Jim Jones to Guyana. Methinks some may have drank the Ford flavored "Koolaid" !
I'm going to go with what G.R.Cheshire said: "I have a Human that is very attentive and is fair to middlen with a wrench and I guarantee He'll have you felling like a youngster again in no time". Also I know exactly how Tim feels (try checking out: www.prewarcar.com ). Fred sounds to me like you found a real keeper for your sole mate.
you got that wrong about Noah! He built an ark and the animals just started to fill it up two by two. After the ark landed, the animals began to multiply.
Moral, build a bigger barn and the Model T's will begin to fill it and multiply!
G.R., are you really pulling that Airstream trailer or just trying to make us believe your T can pull it?
PS: it would probably look good in back of my Roadmaster!
Warren: I think even your Roadmaster would have difficulty with that one it is a 36 foot triple axle But my stepfather wanted the picture for his friends and because there are a lot of drawings of someone pulling an airstream with a bicycle
My Model T's multiplied because I bought my wife one first and she never noticed the other three that came through the door!
Some good advice, Fix the one you have or you end up like me with lots of broken cars that all need mountains of work...
G.R. not sure if the Buick would have a problem. It's 364 cubic inch, rated @ 300hp. Still I wouldn't want to put a trailer hitch on it, the body lines are just to beautiful. When I see my car or photos, I think this must be what started the saying "they don't make'em like that any more". Thanks John, me thinks I should try that one myself. Kep, thank you for your advice and I am fixing the one I already have. It's that I'm just hoping Sambuca has an offspring soon, for me to tell him what a mighty stead his Dad is, while Sambuca is away at Model T Hospital.
Actually, the explanation lays in the area of physics. Like a gas, Model Ts expand to fill the space available.
Good one Trent.
And besides, don't all things grow with love?
(That's a beautiful Buick, Warren!)
This is getting to deep for me.
We have gone from gas filling the space to expanding Love
The next thing we will hear is Warren telling us that his Buick has a three body trunk.
All this because he has a problem with his rear end.
Just use a bit of preparation H and call the Dr in the morning
Now Fred, how did you know about my miss spent youth working as a button man for the mob in Brooklyn? As you can see Sambuca that mighty stead has sired a grandson for me. Welcome to Dunbarton, Bucking Billy! I'm calling him Bucking Billy, because my twin brother Bill always said to me "how would you like me to bounce you of the wall, booy" and Bucking Billy did bounce me off the walls all the way home. I would look Bill straight in the eye and say "where are you gone' na get an Army".
You know Horse's have colts,Cows have calves, goats have kids, bears have cubs.
But my TT just has KITS.
I have to feed them bolts and welds and sandpaper and ,oh my, and that is before they make it to diapers.
Model T Diapers? Isn't that the piece of cardboard on the floor of T garages everywhere?
The new T looks good Warren
And I like the Roadmaster.
Makes me cry though because my grandmother had a 53 buick, I think Century, that the city made her haul away before I was able to get it. I did get grandpals tbird though.
My dad didnt even tell me the buick was gone. I stumbled over it in a junkyard after school 1 day.
Mack - You didn't read the title to Warren's youtube video very carefully; it's a 1957 Buick Riadnaster! For information, Buick also built several other models in the '40's and '50's,......a Speschal, a Sooper, and a Sentury!
Ha,ha,.....just giv'n ya' "the business" Warren. You have quite a nice "stable" there with those three cars! And by the way, my Dad usually referred to Buicks as either a "three-holer" or a "four-holer"! Your "Riadnaster" is of course one of the big ones,.....a "four-holer", right?
I apologize to everyone I must of had a brain cramp or something and have been miss leading everyone including myself the '26 is my wife's new car and she being the wonderful person she is allows me to drive it.