how many times should i take my car apart. Also i need to know the beer to procedure ratio
It's called BPH (beer per hour) ratio. The normal BPH for Model T work is roughly 2. However, if the work if particularly annoying or stressful, that may drop to zero. But the necessity of replenishing fluids after the job is done may actually lead to several being consumed.
The beer to work or time ratio is not a matter confined to Model T work. I can personally attest to the principle's applicability when painting the house, pouring concrete, or making new closet shelves.
I think we need a matrix.
Oh, and as to how many times you should take your car apart. I think the answer will be found in the matrix when compared to the readily available supply of beer.
tillie the 15: it should be taken apart once and not put back together until you have "T" withdrawal symptoms
Is glamorizing booze in the best interests of the Forum?
Ralph, I'm sure that some would agree with you....
Boy ! ... there's a looker ! And with an obvious Lorena Bobbitt fetish, ... who wouldn't want to lock themselves in the shop and take the T apart ?
Mock me if you will, Dick; I'm serious.
You must take the Model T apart as many times as it takes to fix everything which needs fixing. The more you try to skimp by doing one thing at a time, the more times you will need to take it apart. If you work on an engine or transmission or magneto, fix everything you can find while it's apart.
As for the beer, I recommend drinking water or coffee or tea while you are working on the T and when you are all done for the day, drink as many beers as you want to, but don't do any more work on the T for the day.
If you drink while working on the T it might lead to more taking apart, or worse, the big accident.
Photo above would make a great micro brew label.
I sometimes measure jobs around the house in beer units. Just last week I estimated a home repair as a 4 beer job. I was disappointed when it turned out to be a 2 beer job.
Do you want a successful event? If so, ratio should be zero.
Anything that inhibits memory or common sense should be avoided at all costs.
Ralph, I wasn't mocking you, just disagreeing with your take on the post that started this thread, i.e. I don't think that it "glamorizes booze." It just mentions beer in a light-hearted way....
"It were not best that we should all think alike; it is difference of opinion that makes horse races."
. - Mark Twain -
Take it apart once and put it together twice. No matter how many times i repair my magneto it always gets damaged beyond function during re-assembly so i give up on that...
My personal beer to procedure ratio is 0% but others may vary.
Marty, I see that you are Canadian and hope that is a Molson Canadian your drinking! Having worked at the Bobby Orr-Mike Walton Sports Camp in beautiful Orillia, Ontario for six summers I really got to enjoy a great Canadian beer.
This thread made me laugh - I measure my tasks in Cokes though.
Tyrone that photo seems a bit intense for a beer I think. Might be better as a way to ID one's own brand of 'shine?
Let me get this right. So beer is bad, but smokin' dope is OK?
Dave said - "Anything that inhibits memory or common sense should be avoided at all costs."
I guess that means getting old should be avoided!
A few beers at the wrong (right) time may inhibit getting old!
Seth - I prefer Mountain Dew when working on vehicles.
I once tried diet/no caffeine Mountain Dew
It tasted like water.
Dick - I think she is advocating birth control!
Hal I've read through and then re-read, but who is talking about smoking dope in this thread?
The correct answer
ONE FEWER time than you re assemble it
Seth - I think Hal may be referring to a comment made by a Callyfunny guy in a previous thread about the benefits of smokin' but am not sure.
Isn't it uncanny, the resemblance between Carrie Nation and the person in the first photo?
No wonder Wolfman Jack was on radio instead of tv!!Bud.
I even use a beer to beer brewing time ratio. 5 hours from mash to primary fermenter is a good 5 homebrews
gary- so after 5 hours and a mashed finger the beer ratio will primarily increase? (minus any repair procedure of course) owning a T sure is complicated.
Has anyone figured in, he is drinking a LIGHT beer?
The pot vs beer argument in interesting, while traveling through Califorado last spring, I was listening to the PBS radio, and they were interviewing a Colorado Transportation official, and she claimed that smoking pot would not impair one's driving ability. It is no wonder that with this official stand, that there is an increase in the number of impaired driving arrests in that state.
Maybe its just me, but I fail to see how that first photo glamorizes anything.......I am reminded however of the photo in a recent post of the distillation modifications made to a model T.
Only take your T apart completely if you plan to send it to me in the mail one piece at a time.
No mashed finger Tillie, just grains. A burn could up the beer ratio I suppose.
Yes, I'm upset at the "lighthearted" approach to a legal mind altering drug, while the thread that contains my explanation of a natural medicine that has the potential to extend my life and many others gets taken down. Hemp lotion is absorbed through the skin; hemp oil is absorbed under the tongue. That's how I get it.
Booze has no medicinal value. The largest donor to fight Prop 19 in Calif four years ago was Budweiser.
Study: Marijuana Slows Lou Gehrig’s Disease
By Mike Adams · Tue Jul 01, 2014
New research suggests cannabis-based medicine may allow those afflicted with Lou Gehrig’s disease to lead longer, more productive lives.
Researchers from the Complutense University in Spain published their latest findings in the medical journal CNS Neuroscience & Therapeutics, which details an exploration into the effects of the cannabis-based pharmaceutical, Sativex on the debilitating and deadly wrath of ALS, or Lou Gehrig’s disease. The consensus is that Sativex slows the progression of Lou Gehrig’s disease in laboratory animals.
The study, which was conducted by injecting mice in late stages of the disease with a combination of THC and CBD extracts, is consistent with previous studies that have found cannabinoids effective in hindering the evolution of Lou Gehrig’s disease. Researchers conclude that while clinical trails are necessary to paint a more accurate portrait of the drug’s effectiveness on the disease, they believe their findings “provide support that Sativex (or alternative Sativex-like combinations of phytocannabinoids) may serve as a novel disease-modifying therapy in ALS.”
This discovery could eventually change the fate of the nearly 30,000 Americans currently inflicted with the disease, which destroys the brain and spinal cord, and ultimately leads to paralysis and death.
There are only six states in the US that allows the use of medical marijuana for patients suffering from Lou Gehrig’s disease: Arizona, Florida, Maine, Michigan, New Jersey and New Mexico. Because the federal government is working with Sativex manufacturer, GW Pharmaceuticals, there is a distinct possibility the drug will soon be FDA approved for clinical trials for ALS and many other serious conditions.
After all, Sativex is currently being tested in America as a treatment for cancer and epilepsy patients, which is interesting considering marijuana continues to be unrecognized by the federal government as having any medicinal benefit.
The best plan on a public forum is to take everything personally.
The part of legalizing weed I fail to grasp is everyone overlooking the smoke-to-lung and cancer potential. In the 70's, it was said that pot burned with 5x the carcinogen factor as tobacco. That basically means 5x the cancer causing agents/chemicals, or 5x the risk.
As far as I know, oral or topical applications are not an issue. The issue arises in the burning process and the simple fact that the lungs are little more than a soft tissue sponge, incapable of cleaning, like the liver and kidney, and thusly become a repository for all the burnt oils and tars. But no one seems to be concerned about that anymore, as our culture goes forth to hyper vilify tobacco. Makes no sense.
The good news is, I can now buy all the legal pot I want AND marry another dude. Washington State KNOWS how to party !
I can barely tell the difference between a lug nut and a lifter; I don't need to complicate things with mind altering substances of any kind.
But AFTER the work is done, is a completely different story!
Ricks, I will say up front if the Hemp oil can control your pain and that of 1000's more in this country in a controlled,responsible manner in your home,more power to all.But when it is legal to smoke the stuff on the street and make everybody high and cause problems, squash it. It does lead to stronger stuff.I have witnessed it several times and will be glad to explain off forum to you about it.
I lost my grandfather to alcohol before I ever got to know him when I was kid.
My father was a alcoholic for years. I have had to drag him in out of the rain several times where he had passed out in the yard. But thanks to God and his current girlfriend of 8 years he has been dry that length of time and is happy and healthy.
I have never took a drink and don't intend to.
BUT With that being said, I also can decipher a light hearted discussion among friends about a beer or 2 and determine it is not a publicity ad to sell beer .
I am here to advocate the heavy use of LSD as a glamorous and super sexy way to live the Model T life. Please, make a note of it ! ;-)
I'm with Mack on this one. There's a lot of alcoholism in my family background; My grandfather died very early because if it (also caused my Grandmother to divorce him in 1929!). Fortunately my folks avoided it while we were kids, so didn't have to deal with it growing up. With that background, I have avoided drinking, although I will TASTE wine (seriously, just a 1/4" in the glass), and I know what good wine tastes like, just don't like it enough to drink it!
However, I AM addicted to soda pop and milk shakes!!
Oh, and Lemon Meringue pie. . .
Im more of a single malt fan with a generous helping of fidels finest hand rolled
To paraphrase WC Fields: "My Model T drove me to drink. It's the one thing I'm grateful to it for".
I am no stranger to Bill W.
That said, some people are just plain #@!'d up when it comes to substance abuse, and many more are not.
Tying the philosophical side of creative hobby time to the personal shortfalls of the few seems like we're just looking for trouble.
The two are unrelated. I will defer to my USMC mantra: "Duty above all else except Honor"
There can be a lung cancer risk (so can painting a car). Studies from the 70's are by and large rejected as they were funded to reach the conclusion that the funder wished. the latest,
Our primary finding provides initial longitudinal evidence that cannabis use "might" elevate the risk of lung cancer. In light of the widespread use of marijuana, especially among adolescents and young adults, our study provides important data for informing the risk-benefit calculus of marijuana smoking in medical, public-health, and drug-policy settings
From gov't research so expect worse case, note "might" in the conclusion.
As a progressive I don't try to tell adults what they can and cannot do.
Pot is here to stay and regulations seem sensible. You wanna get high why should I care. Yes people will drive high, they do where it's illegal too. I'm for a free society and yes it will entail risks.
An argument could be made to ban Model T's due to the inherent risk to pedestrians and other drivers (and yourself). I would not want to do that.
Ralph I'm glad it's helping you and you live in a state that allows it. Oregon does also. I have talked to so many that depend on it to live. I think it's ironic we went from Carrie Nation to this subject..same argument.
BTW a gov't study said pot would give men boobs.
They are correct. 35 years after giving it up I have man-boobs.
I recently read studies are being done to determine the benefits cannabis might have to those of us struggling with PTSD. I did try out a little pot while I was in the service. We were running between Khe Sanh and Dong Ha. My very close friends told me to try a little. I immediately became very paranoid. I was still feeling the effects when we were ambushed with RPG's and small arms fire. I made it out of that mess, thanked my God for looking after me and never tried it again.
My greatest concerns with marijuana is that the correct controls are put in place. I see it as an opportunity for raising a lot of revenue for this country. Having been a practicing drunk for many years I was able to stay dry for 24 years. Now I drink a cold beer from time to time and enjoy it. But I never drink more then one 12 oz bottle in any twenty four hour period. And I seldom drink a bottle two consecutive days in a row.
Ralph, I feel if there's anything in the world that can help you with what your going through, I don't care if you eat it, smoke it, drink it or use it as a suppository. You're a great guy Ralph and I wish only the best for you.
Tillie may God help you through these troubled times. Your obviously dealing with a strange affliction and maybe you could use a little mind warping chemical introduced into your life.
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Today's editorial "Repeal Prohibition, Again"