OOooops! Not such great deal after all.

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: OOooops! Not such great deal after all.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 12:16 am:


I thought it was a great stroke of luck when I got this early 1915 model year block for $50.


But today I cleaned up the number a bit better and found that 1 on the left. Turns out it's a December 1916 (1917 model year) block. Still appears to be a good block, but not quite the great find I thought. Live and learn.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Lovejoy, So Cal on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 12:42 am:

Steve, I liked your last article in the club mag. Always fun to see what your doing. A question for you about you reverse drums I see in the photo. Have you looked at them? are they cracked? My TT's drum is cracked bad and that put me in a search mode. I have been driving all around here and looked at three fellows stashes of drum's. Everyone of them with one single exception were cracked and the one single drum I did find that was not cracked. Was not for sale,I think we checked about 25 drums so I am just curious about how yours look? Are there still good drums to be found?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 01:21 am:

Steve,
By Califunny standards, that still was a good buy!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 05:37 am:

Naw, .. . .I see it had a replacement helical timing gear at some point in it's life. Worth about $35 . . . . Just kidding, Steve ;o)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chad Marchees on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 06:14 am:

Don't worry Steve, we all get that not so good deal when buying parts. My recent purchase turned out to be pretty much a bust after I got it home with closer inspection. Looks good in the pic, not so good when you really look at it up close and personal.




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 07:43 am:

Chad - is that a complete Model T on the trailer?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 07:45 am:

It's complete in Chad's mind! Lol Fred, as I'm sure someone will post "Hey, I built one up starting with less than that."


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 07:53 am:

A nice EE crankshaft came my way recently, and all the journals cleaned up nicely at .010. I'm going to build a "new" Model T around it, probably a '15 Runabout. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 07:55 am:

1916 blocks are hard to find! I think you did great Steve.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 08:20 am:

What's the casting date. Maybe someone added the 1 later. It looks grossly out of place. If it were mine and I needed a '15 block, it would be a '15 block. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 08:26 am:

Looks like you got some transmission drums also Steve.
I bet you got a deal on those.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 09:23 am:

Tom, I just rebuilt my 1927 engine. We tore down 6 complete 26-27 engines to get a good block and also tore down 6 more transmissions looking for good drums, for a total of 12 transmissions. All the reverse drums were cracked except one, and it was very thin. about 50 percent of the low and brake drums were cracked. But only about 25 percent of the lows and brakes were good enough that I would use them. I finally bought a new reverse drum riveted to my good gear. Remember to keep and take care of all your cracked drums with good gears. That is the way of the future.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 09:23 am:

I think those drums came from an auction last year where I bought some stuff to keep the scrapper from getting it. I haven't checked them for cracks yet.

The 1 being so far out of line is part of why I missed it. I should have noted the casting date when I first saw the thing. It's 12-9-16, just three days before the assembly date. The block was cast on Saturday and the engine was assembled on Tuesday.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 10:18 am:

OK it's a 1917 model year block. Still a great score for the price.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill dugger on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 10:45 am:

Wayne in Grass Valley: I wonder if Steve had his tape measure on the Bib overalls with him? Just kidding Steve, as you never go anywhere with out it!!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Lovejoy, So Cal on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 10:53 am:

Donnie, good info Thanks!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chad Marchees on Friday, July 25, 2014 - 05:43 pm:

Fred and Seth, I had to save it because it was going to be scrapped by the person that had it. Maybe I should have just let him take it, LOL. Funny, I jokingly told my friend (non- T'er) that I bought a new car. Then sent him that pic. His response was "Where is the rest of it."

I am actually thinking of starting a new car, errr truck, I mean van. Well, what ever it is, I bought a REALLY clean '26 frame. That's it, nothing else. I can picture it now in my mind....

Sorry if I misguided your post Steve.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 06:47 am:

Better frame than mine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 12:07 pm:

A weed is any plant growing in the wrong place, so a rose in the wrong place could be a weed but still smells like a rose! I think 50 bucks for that block makes it smell like a rose to me. LOL


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 12:30 pm:

I recently bought a January 1916 block for $50, and plan to build a brass speedster around it. :-)
Cast date 1-28-16, engine number 1,071,xxx.


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