Restoration Shop Paint Matching/Durability

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Restoration Shop Paint Matching/Durability
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kevin Whelihan on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 09:30 am:

I am looking at Restoration Shop Channel green paint for my 26 Tudor. Anyone out there had much experience with the stuff as far as color matching and durability goes? I looked at their online color chart, but can't really tell what the paint actually looks like. And before I get totally trashed, because of where I live mail order stuff is the most feasible option. While there are a couple of local body shops, their products (for the same stuff) is roughly three to four times the price I can get it online and shipped to me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 09:57 am:

I usually stay out of the paint and oil discussions but you're going to the wrong place to price paint. Body shops charge out paint by the time it takes to apply it--Roughly $38-$45 a pint but this varies by region.

I looked at the TCP site and there's not much difference in the price from a paint supplier for the budget line. This is the same place the body shops buy their paint.

As far as color match, every batch and every system will be different. If you're painting the whole car, exact match isn't important. If you're repairing a panel and need a color match to the rest of the car, It's very important to use the same system and color match it. You can't get that by mail order.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Gruber- Spanaway, Wash. on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 10:00 am:

I've used it on a couple cars and I think it's great paint...can't beat the price either.
As with any paint it's hard to tell from a small chip what it'll look like but I've been happy with the results.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 10:38 am:

Kevin,

Where you live I suspect causes you to occasionally drive to either Duluth or St Paul for various reasons to get things you can't get locally. Paint is one of those things that you really do get what you pay for when you buy a quality name brand product, for example PPG or Dupont brands.

I recommend you choose a quality brand, then order what you need from a paint store in St Paul or Duluth. Then either pick it up in person or have it shipped to you. You will then have all sorts of advantages over the off brand paint, including online tech support, product compatibility, and availability of precisely matched paint if you run short or underestimate quantities.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 12:11 pm:

OK, thread drift, that I blame on Royce!
Oly and Helga get married. As they are driving away from the church in his pickup, Oly puts his hand on her knee. Helga giggles and says, "We're married now, you can go a little further than that!"
So Oly did; he drove to Duluth!!

OK, I do understand Kevin's concern; decades ago I lived in Dunsmuir, a little former railroad town in Northern California. I was going to repaint our soon-to-be everyday car (I will refrain from mentioning the make here); but paint had to be gotten in Redding, an hour's drive away. Well, we went to Redding, looked at color charts and picked a color that LOOKED like it was very close to an original grey-blue for our car (a '46 year model). Came home with the custom-mixed paint and a week later I started to paint the car. YEOW!!! THAT'S the color we picked?? Way too blue. Oh well, can't stop now.
Worse yet, at night under streetlamp lights, it turned purple! We lived with it; was that color when we later sold it, 10 years later--but the new owner quickly repainted it!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill dugger on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 12:24 pm:

Dave Dewey: Well I had this 51 Merc 4dr, some kind of white! Well I stripped all the chrome off and started sanding in prep for new paint. I picked a color called "Tahitian Bronze Metallic" and had it painted by a body shop, and it looked great. Installed all the chrome and again looked ever better. The comment I got from my wife is it looked like a big chocolate bar going down the road, like a "Mars Bar". Car wise I wish I had that car today-- a classic_ it would be.
Dave did you know Harold and Roberta Dugger in Dunsmuir, he worked for the Railroad (Southern Pac)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 12:41 pm:

Bill,
Yes I did; their daughter Margie and I were 'best friends' in High school (alphabetical seating, she sat behind me in many classes). We were always just friends, and talked about our boyfriend/girlfriend issues often. We were part of the "out group" not being jocks or popular; there were about 5 of 6 of us (all of 200 kids in the whole school), but Margie's the only one I'm still in touch with.
I upholstered my Model A's rummble seat on Harold's commercial sewing machine in his basement. Haven't talked to Margie in a few years, my bad!
BTW, Roberta worked for the SP too, dispatcher.
So are you any relation? Would like to stop by sometime on our way to/from Dunsmuir (still have family there).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 01:15 pm:

I have used their paint. It went on smooth and looked great. Prep is everything prior to painting.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Burger in Spokane on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 01:17 pm:

What's wrong with black and a brush ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Peter Kable on Saturday, July 26, 2014 - 09:01 pm:

Kevin,
You have a couple of problems you need to address, First off what type of paint was used eg enamel or lacquer? If the wrong one is purchased your problems may increase.

Second, the Channel Green could be any of numerous shades of green and if you buy one that is not very close then you will need to live with it being wrong or you will then need it altered with colors you won't have.

I suggest you take a part of the car with the color on it to someone who can check the color and its type and sell you paint that is correct and a color which matches the green your car is.

If its still wrong you should be able to have it corrected by the supplier as he should be able to guarantee his product. With modern computers this is easy if a sample is supplied.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Alan George Long on Sunday, July 27, 2014 - 11:21 pm:

Hi Kevin.

My 26 T has been in the family from new and I managed to find many good samples of the original green paint in the nooks and places that haven't the sun since painted!

At the time, the painter's best computer match is known as GTO Green. Unfortunately, its a GM colour but that doesn't really matter. Deep Channel Green was my aim also.

Alan in Western Australia


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chester W. Lowery TN on Sunday, July 27, 2014 - 11:50 pm:

Kevin, first I must say I have painted quite a few cars and would highly agree with Royce.....Paint is something you don't want to cut corners.....PPG or DuPont both are good choices....Paints have changed so much since I have painted cars with the enamels and hardener's, base coat and clear coats, lacquers and etc...The type thinner's you use for the quick or slow drying time is important for your area also....which if you are having a shop do the work they know all this already....And don't forget, the correct primer's and sealer's are just as important as the finish paint....and also cure time for each....On my 26 Tudor the body is almost identical to the green on the motor....of coarse the fenders are black but I really like the body color....I can actually take a small brush and touch up a nick with the engine paint and it is just slightly noticeable....Any way, buy the best paint available and although it may not be original I prefer the base coat clear coat....I believe most anyone can spray it without much problems at all and if you do a little wet sanding and buffing will fix your mistakes....very friendly....BE SURE TO USE adequate respirator and ventilation....Chet


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