Help finding a TT parts book

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Help finding a TT parts book
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jason DeGooyer on Thursday, July 31, 2014 - 04:13 pm:

I have heard there is a parts book for Ford TT trucks out here. I have a 1 Ton truck. Does anyone out there know exactly what it is called and who sells it?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Miller, Sequim WA on Thursday, July 31, 2014 - 04:53 pm:

Jason, most of the TT chassis parts can be found in any " Price List of Parts ".
If you would like a Price List that has the Chassis and Body Parts specifically for the TT's , most of the parts suppliers will have them in their book section.

The book has the number TT-1 , a must for TT owners especially those that have the Steel Cabs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Thursday, July 31, 2014 - 04:56 pm:

Look in the back of you car parts book (T-7). It has the TT parts that are different from the cars. The body parts are listed in the Price List of Body Parts (T-10)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Thursday, July 31, 2014 - 04:59 pm:

Fred was typing faster. There's lots of options out there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jason DeGooyer on Thursday, July 31, 2014 - 05:21 pm:

Thanks. Also, does anyone know where I can find blue prints of TT chassis from years 1919 through 1926? (I'm tring to date my chassis based on measurements)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Thursday, July 31, 2014 - 05:50 pm:

Jason,

Here's a link to another thread that has links to TT chassis drawings:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/466127.html?1406752748


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jason DeGooyer on Thursday, July 31, 2014 - 06:03 pm:

Henry, I noticed you mentioned at some point Ford started making the rear cross member longer. Do you know what year the change was made? my rear cross member is 34 inches and has 2 holes in the top one the end of each side. I can post a picture if needed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Strickling on Thursday, July 31, 2014 - 06:34 pm:

Also What year did the TT running board brackets change from 4 short ones to 2 shorts and one long that went all the way across the frame.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Thursday, July 31, 2014 - 06:54 pm:

Well, according to the drawings Phil Mino posted links to on the other thread, by August 1920 the rear cross member had been increased from 32" to 34.5" and instead of one hole there were two. I had always assumed the change was made a little later, but.... I'm sure my truck is an early one and its rear cross member has one hole on each side and it measures 32".

So, according to the drawings posted, the longer cross member with two holes could be any year from probably 1921 year model (introduced in late 1920) to end of production in 1927.

Some other things that may narrow it down a little:

1. What size running boards does your truck have, 15" or 18"?

2. Wood or steel firewall?

3. What patent plate is on the dash just above the steering column. (You can match it to pictures available in most of the vendor catalogs).

4. Early double "U Bolt" style front engine mount or the later "Y" style?

5. Round or oval gas tank?

6. Steering column has or does not have 2 holes on top for horn button?

Given that we're talking about trucks that are 87-97 years old and the fact that many (most?) of them were worked on over the years by folks who didn't care what they looked like and didn't care about "authenticity", folks who only cared if it would work, what we find in them now is what we find. It's sort of an adventure trying to figure it out, and you may never be sure.

Let us know what you find. GOOD LUCK!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jason DeGooyer on Friday, August 01, 2014 - 04:25 pm:

I checked the rear cross member again and it is 34.5'' just like you say.

Here is the other info I found. I posted some pictures and you will probably recognize the truck since I have posted on here a few times in the recent past.

1. The running boards are 15'' x 8.25'' (or so)

2. The firewall is wood

3. I wish there were a patent plate but it is not to be found. I have scoured the cab for any information and found nothing

4. With regard to the front engine mount, I am very new to the hobby so I am not sure what I am looking for but I took a picture of what I think your talking about. This looks like a "Y" style mount(?)

5. Oval gas tank

6. Again, I am not exactly sure where to look for the holes for a horn button but I posted some pictures and am hoping maybe you can see them. If not I can post some other pictures.

I am still trying to crack the code on the year of this cab and frame!
Thanks for your help


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Friday, August 01, 2014 - 04:46 pm:

The pedals say 26/27. The frame support suggest 27. That's for the mechanicals.

As to the body, you may want to look thru the 1926 Fordex. Or find a copy of TT2 which has been out of print for years. This would be for a looks like comparison as TT2 contains the bodies as approved by Ford


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Friday, August 01, 2014 - 05:03 pm:

Well, let's see:

1. The short 15" running boards were early, but I cant remember what year they changed them to the 18" boards. I'm sure someone else on this forum can help with this.

2. Wood firewall was discontinued during the 1923 production year, so it's a '23 or earlier based on the dash.

3. Too bad there's no patent plate. It would help a lot.

4. Your front engine mount appears to be a "Y" style, which indicates 1921 or later. However, I wouldn't put too much in this because I think your engine is not the original and the mount could have been changed with the engine.

5. Oval gas tank indicates 1920 or later.

6. Steering column absent the 2 threaded holes indicates 1917 or later.

And, of course, you have a 1926/27 engine.

In my opinion the telling items are the wood fire wall, making it 1923 or earlier and the oval gas tank making it 1920 or later, so it seems there's a 1920, 1921, 1922, or 1923 window of possible year models.

One more thing you could check is the outside diameter of the steering wheel. 15"=1912-20. 16"=1920-25. 17"-1925-27. I'm betting it's a 16", which won't actually help narrow things down.

Also remember that Ford had a tendency to introduce a change on a particular date, but would then use up what was on the shelf before starting the new part. This habit makes it difficult some 90 years later to know exactly what we have.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Danuser on Friday, August 01, 2014 - 10:57 pm:

I'll have my wife look in the parts trailer, I think I have the TT-1 and the Fordex book in my reprod. parts sales stuff, dsanuser88@ktis.net MTFCA member # 2088


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, August 01, 2014 - 11:35 pm:

Bruce McCalley's encyclopedia on disk includes TT parts, both chassis and body, with pictures.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Saturday, August 02, 2014 - 08:04 am:

One thing for sure is the body is not Ford so it won't be in the parts books. The switch panel is from a "chassis only" sale so any number of changes could have occurred after it left the factory.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Danuser on Saturday, August 02, 2014 - 06:08 pm:

Jason Degooyer I have in stock the booklet TT-1 email me at danuser88@ktis.net


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Danuser on Saturday, August 02, 2014 - 08:17 pm:

Jason I also have 60 yrs plus of TT and T parts used, NOS, and the reproduction and some period accessories


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