I am wanting to change my Kevlar linings out. I just do not like them. Ive already been thru all the pros and cons of Kevlar in another post. I tried them, Ive set them very loose, still I do not like the "harsh feel of them. So I want to go back to Scandivanians, but I do not have anymore 26-27 style original bands. But I do have some Wards NOS bands for the 26-27. I have always heard they are too short. So when I lay them in the metal bands they are just the right length to fit but nothing extra to "work" into a tight lining after riveting each end. So in my opinion they are too short. Looking real close at them I notice they appear to be "slightly puffed" in there shape. Very slight hard to see type of thing. So I take them to my sheet metal slip roll and set it for a nice tight "squeeze" of the lining. Not overly tight just a good semi hard crank to the handle. I marked the original length on the bench. I then cranked the lining thru the roll. After one pass they are now 3/4 inch too long (a good thing). They now have a nice feel and look. No more "puffy look". They are slightly stiffer and have a nice firm feel to the linings. Not a hard feel just a firm surface. I am thinking ( a very dangerous thing) that thru the years the linings have relaxed and got shorter thru time. By craning them thru the slip roll I have just "pre seated" them. Similar to what happens when "seating" them in, with several adjustments, after installing in the engine. My main question, what are the opinions (another dangerous thing) on the Wards bands. They appear to be very nice quality, but do not have the waxy feel of Scandinavians. Are they just plain cotton.?? Ive never used them before so any thoughts are appreciated. Im going to try them, but input is always nice. Even comments about wood bands (Ill try them someday). I can change a set of bands in about 45 minutes (not counting time to do the cleanup and rivets) so messing with them does not bother me. Thanks, and let the praise or bashing begin
I've used the Wards bands. They work great, I use them on the reverse and low bands, with a Kevlar brake band lining.
These work great too:
You need to have the bands hang over about 1/8 to 3/16 inch so that the end of the band will not dig into your drum. The band lining should be long enough to fit flat against the band and not hang loose between the rivets. If they are too short, get some cotton linings which are sold by the vendors. Actually, when you apply the low or reverse band you should have the engine idling as slowly as possible without killing the engine. Then push down hard and when the car starts moving increase the throttle. It is not good to slip into gear with any kind of bands. With cotton or wood it will burn them and glaze the surface, and with Kevlar it will get too hot.
Donnie, thanks for the tip, I have a set of Wards linings and will be sure to check their length and "roll them out" if necessary before I use them.
Original band linings should measure in the 23 & 1/2" length neighborhood. Drop me a note, Donnie - I have Scandi's excess to my needs.
Royce I have a set of those nice Ford bands but they are not for the Improved Fords, and I think my Ford dealer is out of them . Norman. I always install them with the overhang, and I like them to be long enough to have excess length in the center after I rivet both ends and then "work" the excess into the band. I am also going to coat the ends of the lining to help on unraveling. I have some quick poly. I think if I dip about 1/4 inch of the ends of the band into the quick poly, it should soak into the end and seal the threads. ???? Ive never tried it that way before but Im giving it a try. I have seen on another thread where someone coated the ends of the bands with the spray they sell to insulate the windings of the mag coils.... Thanks for the offer Steve, Ill send you a PM message ...
There has been
a few threads for using bands such as Wards and other brands that are good cotton bands that are a bit short.
Some just cut them in half and leave a 1/4 to 1/2"
gap at the bottom when you brad them on the band.
More than a few T owners have done this with no problem so the threads say.
I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I have several cotton bands that I saved that I might try this the next time one of my cars need a religning.
or use wood
I dipped the ends of the bands in the quick poly. It worked great. I dipped them about 1/4 inch and it soaked in to about 3/8 to 1/2 inch. I kept the ends hanging down so gravity would not cause it to soak deeper. The threads are very secure now and I think they will not unravel any. The quick poly hardens in just a couple minutes so you have to be prepared to move quickly. John, I read the threads about cutting them in half. I agree that it should work OK. But rolling them on the slip roll may make it unnecessary.