I have maybe a full set, but don't know what I have, they are pin drive, smooth face centers no upset inward, or outward. One has been rerimmed and rewired, and I believe at least 4 or 5 in total, the rest need rerimmed and repoked. I have Daytons, but according to all the articles I have these are not them, if anyone knows what they are please let me know email@example.com
Can you post pics John?
Seth I'll try and get my son tommorrow to get them out and I'll send you some, I don't know how to put them on the computer
i believe "universal" wires had the flat hub which is ment to bolt directly on to the wood wheel hub, like the new mclearen wheels. check if the six holes match the ford hub
Thanks Clayton will try and do tommorrow, I've had quite a few different kinds over the last 25 yrs, but I never could find out anything about this set, so they are still here
Hi John, I think Clayton's right. I have a set of Universals and I think they have smooth faces. They are not pin drive, they match the Ford bolt pattern. I will run over to the garage later and verify.
what kind of wheels are on this contraption? 6 bolt, outside lock rings, have a look http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Other-Pickups-Aged-rust-1922-Model-T-Truck-spoke-wh eels-rat-rod-/131259064014?forcer
Seth it will be late monday eve before my son is available to dig out the wheels and photo them, his son who lives in texas has to fly back first thing in the a.m. so they have headed to St Louis, to spend the nite w/ his sister, then his work at Mo School for the Deaf starts Monday as he is head of the boys and girls dorms, teachers must be one week in advance of the students.
Seth I tried sending the photo's to you and I get an error, I don't know how to get rid of the damn error so I can try again, send me an email w/your correct email address please firstname.lastname@example.org
Sent you an email back John.
Here are the wheels that John was talking about -
They look like the Universal's that Clayton was talking about. They bolt onto wood wheel hubs.
I also have the 5th center, we just didn't dig it out, its in black primer These are for sale if anyone needs them, the grey one has new rim and new spokes trued, the rest I've put together in the last 20 yrs email@example.com
I have a front and rear of these. These appear to be all fronts only.
Does anybody have a picture of the original hubcap?
Andrew what is the difference between fronts and rears?
the six holes look too big to me, they should be the same size as the wood wheel bolt, 3/8. those sure look like dayton hubs, but i can not explain why they have no rise around the 6 drive holes if they are dayton. is there a small strip of metal, like 1/8 thick, and 3/8 long under the last, most outside form of the hub, say, where a hub cap would go on? that, if there is,is the piece that holds the lock strip in on a dayton. John, surely you have had daytons in the past you would know what i'm talking about. that piece, was held in place by a small pin that sticks thru the hub to keep it in place, and on some wheels its peened over so well you can hardly find it, and i've seen others where its missing and there is an 1/8 " hole on the side of the hub. perhaps some one could not find any dayton hubs and ground off the rize around the bolt holes for a different mount? just a thought. there is a guy here in mpls that has daytons on stock ford hubs (bolt circle matches) using modern studs pressed into the ford hub, and nickel 26-7 tapered lug nuts holding them on. been on there for many years, and he says no trouble yet. i have had some packards, and those wheels have the same rize around the lug holes but they use a square shouldered bolt to hold them on. same wheel, and bolt combo used on many cars, reo, packard, overland, to name a few. laydon butler is sharp on this stuff, he would know. John Steele, this is i think what your 72 spokers would have been mounted with
Clayton I have Dayton hubs and caps and 2 wheels, John Steele bought some More Daytons for me and is trading w/me for other parts and then I'll have a complete set, I also Have a set of Dayton dentral drive for my 26-7 rdster pickup 19 in w/snap rings and 26-7 style hubs. Yes I've had about 7-8 different sets of accy wheels over the last 20 yrs, but economics of this world have caused me to have to sell to pay bills, the set of wheels shown and a extra good center are for sale 2000.00 U.S.$$ plus you pay ins and freight, no charge for crating
I have attached 2 photos of a rear Universal for your records
Does anybody have a picture of what the Hubcaps looks like with these wheels
thanks Andrew, that counts out universal, way different. i will say again, Johns wheels sure look like dayton pin drives without the raised up part around the drive. John, did you look inside the hub to see if there is any remains of the lock ring inside?
Clayton I did not, but my wheel hubs are not threaded on the outside like Andrews, mine look like most other wire wheels that Have a cap that's captured w/ a pin?
John I think your wheels are Houk. Dayton had the drive hole lip pressed outwards, Pasco had the lip pressed inwards, and Houk similar to Dayton but no lip.
i think Andrew Brand wins the prize, check this out http://www.nwvs.org/Technical/MTFCA/Articles/1504WireWheels.pdf