Matching demountable rims and felloes

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, August 04, 2014 - 02:06 pm:


On Hayes rims the lug extends back across the bead.


I assume that the felloes with this notch to accommodate that lug are Hayes also, though I've never seen any markings to confirm that. Am I right?

That brings me to the next question. What are the distinguishing marks or features that ID other felloes? The encyclopedia shows how to ID the rims, but are the felloes for the various Kelsey and Ford rims all the same?


From this diagram in the encyclopedia I gather that only the two B rims (Hayes and Ford) have attached lugs, and that Kelsey and the C and D Ford rims use separate lugs (not attached to the rims). If so, are there differences among the lugs to ID them, or are all detachable lugs the same??


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Monday, August 04, 2014 - 02:25 pm:

My Hayes felloes have "Hayes" lightly stamped in them near the valve stem hole:

hayes

They also have a "cup" welded around the valve stem hole, I assume to help protect the stem:

cup


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, August 04, 2014 - 03:03 pm:

Well, after seeing those pictures I went and looked at about a dozen felloes. They're the notched ones, because that's what fits the Hayes rims I've been collecting. I didn't find any with the Hayes mark near the stem hole as shown in the picture, although in a couple of cases it looked like there might be something there that would show up with sandblasting. Only three of them have the valve stem protector. I suspect that was a late development.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Hatch on Monday, August 04, 2014 - 07:23 pm:

The cups are usually for the stem on a Firestone rim. Firestone rims have no lugs like a Kelsey rim. Only they have a stem the valve stem goes in to fit in that cup. That keeps the rim from turning on the felloe. Dan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 05:38 am:

Steve, here in Australia the only felloe I know of which terminates like that on the outside, ie Straight up with no land rolled in, is on our 21" wheels which have split rims and fixed lugs.

All 23" felloes I know of have an edge rolled in on the outside of the felloe. To Accept a Hayes rim with that foot on the lug, a depression is made in that rolled edge to allow the lug to go on.

No doubt Hap will be able to add more on your US felloe/rim combinations.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 08:33 am:

So apparently these wheels never reached Oz. They're the 23" size. I also have a few 23" felloes with straight sides but without the notches.

Among the few felloes I have for 21" wheels, some are straight and some are rolled.


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