I'll start with this wreck:
Aside from the '27 in my profile, there's also a '25 closed cab in pieces. Here it is in its current glory.
Another shot of my '25. Note the slight front end modifications (no change in horsepower, oddly).
1924 TT waiting for me to finish the cars and get around to it.
Here is one of Thelma Tae, in her "Oakie" attire awaiting the beinging of the local parade.
And one more puttin' away some hen scratch at the local fall harvest.
OK. Come clean Kevin! How the heck was that PTO rigged up? My 27 TT wont do that!
Any pictures of the setup?
Didn't help me any.
Looks like Kevin's got an EZ power pto I have one but it's not
Hooked up no coupler nice TT and pto Kevin
Kevin: Gotta get some 48-star flags.
Bob: I bought one of those at the Jot 'em Down Store. Anybody who knows about that is probably really old.
Hal: That's what they're for.
I've posted this photo a couple of times before, but here it is again on request.
My tt needs a little work but runs good
My Gramps bought this 1924 new in Seattle in early 1925.
Not to hijack the thread, but Steve makes a great point. In addition to "Show Off Your TT's" it would be interesting to know how we each came to have our trucks.
I've mentioned this a number of times on the forum. Mine was my grandfathers who acquired it in 1946 as the orchard truck on a ranch he bought that year. It's the first vehicle I ever drove.
The cab belonged to my Great Great Uncle and we pulled it out of the barn.
How do you guys get big pictures to show up
How we found ours ,I was working on a house out in a sub division and was backing out and looked to my right to slap a fly ,and next door under a tree was a tt ,checked it out needed lots of work, so got home told wife about and just started looking on internet and found ours about 80miles away called and went,looked,,brought home. The other one sold the other day for 3k good buy at 3k
I should have picked a better title for the thread.
The TT I am currently building will have a John Bean spray rig as the back end. This rig was originally on a TT frame. It will be driven by the Warford PTO ....if I can ever find one. I may need other gearing to get the TT slow enough to get through the orchard while spraying.
The picture of your TT is less than a 9 kb file size. It could be about 20 times larger than that and still be 180 kb file which is less than the 196 or so upper limit. When you resized/compressed your photo you don't need to make it that small to post. I usually look at the photo when I “preview” my posting and if it is too large I make it smaller or if it is too small – I try to find a larger version. I normally try to keep several sizes of the same photo so I can zoom in on details if I want to at a later date. Please see a few of the posting below on how to resize the photos:
Some threads on resizing. I’m sure one of the ways they suggest will work for you also.
This one sounds easy: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/239351.html
Some additional choices:
Also shoot for 195 kb or less even though it says 200kb or less is allowed.
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Jeff V I just gotta ask did the front end modifications on your 25 have any effect on the top end?
I really love TT trucks. I love accesssories too. Just finishing up one of the wackiest out there, Hassler shocks for the rear of a TT. Very hard to find. Why anyone would manufacture them or put them on a TT is anyone's guess. Thanks to John Danuser, finally have a set. As soon as the brass tags from Jack Daron arrive, they will be ready to mount.( this winter). Still looking for a usable pair of rear shackles. I would like to find a pair of fabricated ones, not the forged type. Have cash/and or the forged pair to trade.
Hal, I assume that '22 is yours? That's a really nice one and is exactly how I'd want it.
Thanks. Yes, it's mine. The engineer in me came out and made me calculate the weight of that load of lumber. Using average densities I found in a book, that load came to almost exactly 1 ton. The other shot is a load of sugar cane. It was getting dark when I shot that. We were up early the next morning grinding that and making syrup.
Here's my TT/Pirsch firetruck. Finally got it in two parades and two car shows. Becoming quite a hit. Sorry not the clearest pic, had to re-size it to make it fit.
Here is mine with the Mayberry Tribute group on the back. The lady that actually played Sharleen is riding shotgun. The others are just folks that act the part at festivals.
The bed latch was secured by nylon strap and a rope to make sure I didnt dump them. I think Odis had allready hit his head enough .
G.R., didn't really add any speed, but the hydrostatic drive is nice in heavy traffic.
Dressed up for the Fourth.
One of mine
My "24 TT
Brian, what is hanging on the side of the C? Is it a turn signal?
Justin, Yes, it is a "Wiggler" turn signal.
In addition to the "Wiggler" It has the spotlite, "Cop Spotter" rear view mirror, an odometer where the front left hubcap should be, Hassler's, Ruxtell and Muncie trans. The truck is an import from Canada and unfortunately no history.
This thanksgiving will be forty years I've had this 1918 TT truck.
That's me driving, Tim Wonsowetz in the passenger seat and Sterling Olsen in the back. Just putting around the farm.
Great thread guys!, always loved the pick-ups but i can now see and appreciate these TT's as well. Its great to see how everyone interprets their own vision of a truck, and they all look great just the way they are, stock or home-built. Add one of these to the long list of T's i would love to own before i croak.
Never heard the term "wiggler" for those before. Always knew them as "semaphores". I have a real cool one set aside for my truck. Little glass "bullets" facing fore and aft, one green, one red.
Here's mine, still not on the road - but I still hoping for this year :-)Got mine from the Bay area, story I was told is it was used by a Church group for hay rides and such. It was painted yellow with a brush, kept it from rusting :-)Guy I bought it from painted most of it black, again with a brush. I laugh when I still find yellow to this day :-)
OT Not a TT but a later version. This last week I replaced the rear main seal and painted the cab, still no brakes, but I will get her ready for sale. This F600 shows only 3000 miles on the odometer and an old title from 2002 shows 2200 miles, both questionable sources, however she runs like a sewing machine and has original paint found all over her, and a solid body so...
This is a photograph of Dad's 1918 "TT", restored in time for the 2008 centenary rally in Echuca. The body is mostly original with a few rotted timbers replaced.
Oh man!! My favorite thread in a while. I want a TT SOOOOOO bad! I think I've about decided I like the metal enclosed cabs the best, but Bob on Texas Gulf Coast that '24 C-Cab is gorgeous! Mine (one day . . .) will definitely need to be a wrecker like that.
Tom Lovejoy - how about a status update on your TT? What needs to happen for it to be on the road? I like the pinstriping on your fenders and the highlighted Ford on the radiator.
heres mine--- Paul
Our '17 TT w/ Holmes 285 Wrecker
Wow Brian, we need some close up pics of that cage, especially the wire.
Thanks in advance
this is my 1925 tt
start of the next one . need a c cab
'19 TT Fire truck, scheduled for tear down this fall to start the restoration.
OOOHhhhhh nice Mike! Ruckstell and another aux trans (what kind is it?).
If I could do anything at all I'd put Mark Chaffin's Gemsa rocket engine in a TT with a Ruckstell and some kind of 3 speed diff-mounted trans. Haha, it'd be a TT Speedster.
How do you operate without a TT and a good women?
A nice gentleman in Seattle called me up a couple months ago and gave me this 25 TT. About half rebuilt, professionally rebuilt short block, mag plate, front axle, radiator, frame and some small parts. Needs rear axle cleaned up (turns and shifts smoothly), wheels/tires, glass, interior plus smaller things.
Few more pics at:
Hauling some brush this July. I have it listed in the for sale section. More pictures here...
Here is Big Liz and Betty:
My TT came out of a friend's barn in PA. I used to sit on it and pretend driving it about 55 years ago! It has been in the family since the early 70's.
You are invited to the Texas T Party on Oct 8 thru 12, in San Angelo, Texas to see Big Liz. I want to see if you can pass me!
"I want to see if you can pass me!" just can't be left alone.
Is that an auxiliary transmission I see the outline of? What rear end gears? A second aux trans mounted at the rear end? Stock engine?
Inquiring minds what to know why you think you can go faster than everybody else!!
Henry if I remember right Big Liz keeps up on tours with the regular T's without a whole lot of trouble. I think he's got a high speed rear diff ratio, Ruckstell, and a Muncie (I think?) transmission all getting spun off of an engine with plenty of grunt. =)
Well Seth, A Muncie, high speed rear end gears, and a strong engine would do it!
This is Mr. T. He is a 1925 TT wooden cab with original flatbed and stakes. I needed something to haul stuff around the farm with and his 15mph top speed and small size is perfect for squeezing into the woods to get firewood on the old roads. He does great in mud, on ice and snow, and on hills. I just bought it last winter as my first 1920's vehicle. I'm the third owner. The original owner was from Coon Valley Wisconsin, was sold sometime last year, and the guy quickly sold to me. The other truck is my great-grandfather's Dodge B1B, which has the name of my farm on it and lots of other cool advertising. It is non-running at the moment. Both trucks will be with me for a long while. I've begun painting the cab of Mr. T. away from this really green color to something a little more 1920-ish. I'm also stripping all the paint off the stakes to get them back to their original wood, and will then linseed oil them.
The second picture was taken yesterday. The flat bed is an awesome mobile work station.
Here is mine.
The only pic I have of my C Cab is in my profile and I haven't had the nerve to start to begin to commence to try and post pictures on the Forum. Sure wish someone would repop the stakes for a Ford Truck stake bed, tho. I have 1 need 7.
I went to Texas to get this one. The body and bed are the way I bought it.Had to go thru the engine and transmission and the Warford and The rear axle. It's now got 5.16 :1 rear-end, SCAT crank and a 'Z' head. I put in a 280 Stipe cam running 1 tooth retarded which makes it a torkey rascal,
The picture was taken at a threshing party about 3years ago.
Jeff, post a photo of your "super cab"
Henry, Seth go most of it right.
Gotta add a Stipe 250 cam, high dome aluminum pistons, no coil ring nor magnets, balanced, TrueFire and oil slingers. Most important is a very stupid owner/driver! She breaks something every time I pass somebody!
Y'all come down to the San Angelo Texas T Party the first week of October and we'll have a TT tour of our own.
Maybe we could have a TT class in the Montana 500 next year?
Tony I will dig up a couple other truck pics of ours including the crew cab
Fought and lost at the Alamo with a broken Muncie front U-joint after passing a Touring on Hwy 90 going into Bracketville, Texas
I don't even remember what I broke on this T Party. Jeff may remember since his TT was the vulture wagon.
Nice 'crew cab' Jeff, bringing it to San Angelo?
I heard you took it to North Carolina?
Originally Big Liz had a a stock 7 to 1 Ruckstell, and solid rubber tires. 18 mph was the top speed. She had fresh paint job here:
That picture was taken in north carolina, don't know about san angelo yet, I am registered and will be there but don't know what I will be driving.
Where is the info on the t party in San Angelo,tx we live north about 70miles,like to bring ours
5811 Pecan Valley Lane
San Angelo, TX 76904
The host hotel is the Clarion Hotel at 325-486-3300. Mention Texas T Party for the $99/day rate.
Here are before and after photos of my 26 TT.
Seth, here's my delays - so far :-) trying to fix cracked drum and other issues - none working mag. Engine stand adapter I copied from Steve's on this forum, thanks Steve! :-)So far everything I have taken apart as needed a rebuild, but I am hoping for the best with my engine - it runs good. Great trucks guys, a fun thread.
Just a few comments:
I love the pics of the trucks actually being used to haul something. I haven't seen Adrian Whitman post in a while, but he had a pic of his hauling more hay than one could imagine.
I also LOVE the semi truck that Jeff Cordes posted.
Ryan, that green may well have been a 20's color. Mine has some green on it inside that is about that color. I have my doubts about it being original paint, but on doing some research into aftermarket cabs, I found at least one manufacturer (Martin Parry, I think) indeed painted their cabs green, so who knows? Maybe it was original or at least made to match what was original?
Last but not least....You gotta love those solid tires on Anthony Marino's truck.
I robbed this photo from the forum some time ago because it is the image of what mine should be whenever I *get it together*....even with the incorrect upper windshield. Don't know who this belongs to.
I found bits of the original green on the edge of the inside of the cab. It was more of an "Apple green". I think it was reprinted in the 80s or so with the "forest green". I made sure to leave plenty of spots around the inside where the original paint shows for any future owner (hopefully at least 40 years from now!). I just didn't care for the color. Now I need to get to work dirtying this truck up. It doesn't look right all shiny new.
I can only imagine the solid rubber tires all around only being used on a farm or dirt roads?
What is the story on the big "Ford" script I keep seeing on radiators ?
Tony, when I hauled you that time, you had a rebuilt simmons carb with a sticking flapper. I just may have to pass you on the T party.
This is another fellow T member I brought in.
Burger - It seems that's for the benefit of people who don't know that it's a "Ford". Thought about getting one for my Speedster, as I get asked all the time "What is it?" On the other hand, that seems to be a great conversation starter.
It might be fun to get one that says, "Chevy" and see what happens!
I put together another Simmons Wizard. Hopefully it will keep you behind me.
Here is one of my future projects. It is a 1926 non starter from the factory. Someone has added a starter and generator, but no place for the battery. If anyone has an original seat bottom spring for the drivers side for sale I am very interested.
"Burger - It seems that's for the benefit of people who don't know that it's a "Ford". Thought about getting one for my Speedster, as I get asked all the time "What is it?" On the other hand, that seems to be a great conversation starter."
Hmmm .... and here I was thinking it was perhaps a period dealer accessory or option ...
I have been scouring the old photos looking for an example in 1922, but wasn't seeing any.
Seems a bit of gratuitous overkill for either the lazy people who can't be bothered to look at the radiator shell, or the owners to blast it in everyone's face that this ain't no Chevy ... a concept I thought was only active amongst the post-1960 muscle car and chest pounder crowd. We see this all the time today in the form of window decals loudly letting even the dimmest observer that this 1994 is indeed a Ford or Chevy when it is obvious to anyone who has not spent their life in the darkest jungles of Africa.
Personally, I'm gonna pass. I'd rather keep the look "clean" and force the observer to make an effort, and I sure as heck have no interest in broadcasting the make. I'll let the truck speak for itself.
Good intel. Thanks.
Early 1909s did have a "Ford" script on the radiator from the factory similar to those, but brass.
Here's a good example:
I imagine that people liking the look of the 1909 scripts are the reason why those scripts are a popular addition to many later T's.
Took her out to test the new (old) Simmons Wizard. Got her up to 43 but it's too hot today in south Texas. 93 with a heat index of 100!
Burger - Agreed. Besides, with the Rajo and the 85 year old honeycomb radiator, I need all the cooling I can get!
Heres ours,,,still has original decals on doors
Now thats the most interesting TT body I've ever seen! Are the front corner windows curved? How are the side canvasses held up with the 4 straps? What was it used for? . .. more pics, please!
'26 Model TT Closed Cab Stakebed ----- a resurrected workhorse.
I think Derek is right. I bought one of those Ford logos. I'm gonna put it on the cover for my HCCT so I can tell which way to put it back on. It fits one way better than the other.
Here is Jim & Tina Weymouth of Grass Lake, Michigan.........truck has a Warford and a Manely crane that is yet to be restored. Still need a vintage block and tackle with hook for the chain.
This is my 1921 TT Wrecker:
Hello George if it was mine you are asking about ,
this truck was purchased new by a farmer in Edwards , Ontario ,Canada
It was used to deliver produce from his farm to the Byward market (downtown Ottawa) until 1929 (the depression)
It was then disassembled and stored in the barn
we purchased it from the estate
Bought this wreak a few months ago. Engine number lines up with Feb 1926 but I dont think the cab/frame is 26. Trying to pin down the cab maker and frame year is tough.
My 1925 at the 2011 OCF.
And at last years OCF after the spokes were put in by Stutzman's Wheel Shop.
It also has what I have been told is a fairly rare conversion that made it into a 1 1/2 or 2 ton truck with frame extensions and heavy duty springs. That explained why the Ton Truck bed i bought for it didn't fit on the frame very well!
I picked it up about 10 years ago in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area from a pole barn where it had been stored for over 20 years.
Neat truck Roger. Good info!
Roger - Nice truck! Will you be at the OCF this year with it?
Yes, I am planning on being at the OCF this year. That is where I was told about the conversion kit it has. I happened to come back to the truck and the judges were looking around and under it. I told them it wasn't supposed to be judged and they said we know, we just like looking at these and seeing what is here. I believe the one it was Dave that works at THF that told me about it. When I bought it, I didn't know there was a difference and thought all TT's came this way. This is my first one, and so far still my only one (after about 10 years). Maybe mine is defective in the reproducing department......
my before and after
Roger - I'll be sure to look you up and check out your TT too. Don't be surprised if you see me crawling around under it to see it better!
I'm curious if the rear axle (it looks stock) was moved back, did they install a Warford or other aux. transmission, or do something else to extend it? Just wondering.
Yeah, it was your truck on which I commented, Shawn. Most truck bodies -Ford and aftermarket - seemed to take a great deal of wear and tear but yours appears to have fared much better. And it is of a higher class design. You know how much curved glass cost to replace nowadays?? Treat it gently . . . . and bring it to Texas sometime :o)
George - A "TT" of very unique design for sure, but I'm not sure that it has been established that it is curved glass in that cab. I think it is just flat glass, mounted at an angle between the windshield and side windows,.....???
Very interesting truck though, and judging by the apparent length, it looks to me like the added length is probably because of installation of an auxiliary transmission without the expense and trouble of shortening the drive shaft and torque tube.
Could you elaborate a bit Shawn?
Harold and George
this one is the same body type
but this one is extended (about 22 ")
it was sold about 2 years ago and is being restored
I think the spare frame , also extended went with it
you are correct the glass is flat , recessed into the curve in the cab
I don't have anymore pics of this one
What is OCF ???
And what is the story behind that locomotive ?
Burger: OCF is Old Car Festival at The Henry Ford in Dearborn, MI. It is held the weekend after labor day every year. The locomotives (they are 2 different ones) are ones they run around a track surrounding the village, and you can ride the train. The Village just finished restoring the second one, Number 7, last year. I have been told it was Henry's personal engine at one time.
Keith, it is a stock axle with what I presume are high speed gears as it will do a bit over 30 with no auxiliary transmission. At some point, the rear axle was farther back than it is now as the rivets are still in the frame at the previous location and when it was moved it was bolted in place. To me, it looks like the regular frame is as built, and the extension runs along and outside it, making it wider. If you look at the picture above the springs, you can see where the extension is clamped to the regular frame and then angles to the outside of the box. If you would like, I can give you my cell number so we can be sure to meet up.
Hi Roger - I think I'll find you with out the phone number ok.
I'll be easy to spot - just look for the guy with the big grin driving a black Ford!
We'll have our '14 Touring, and will be parked in the '14 cars area, not the judging area. Look for 1914 Wisconsin license plate #27444W. It's black letters on a white backround.
I'll look forward to meeting you.
Ok, I will be sure to look for you. I park across the road from Edison's lab, usually closer to the boarding house than the doctors office.
Burger, OCF is a unique car show taking in cars from 1932 to the oldest that can enter. The cool thing about OCF is that the owners are encouraged to drive their vehicles around Greenfield Village in Dearborn, MI, next to The Henry Ford. This is far from a static show. On Saturday night, there is a Gaslight Parade, where the cars light their electric, kerosene and, gas lights and drive around the Village while a ragtime band plays on the stage, followed by fireworks. This year there are somewhere between 700 -- 800 vehicles registered.
Roger, there are three different trains (not counting the little orange diesel that sometimes fills in), the Edison, The Torch Lake and, the one you mentioned that they finished restoring recently.
Yes, I know there are three. I only had pictures of the two with my truck. I like the trains about as much as I like the vehicles, maybe even more than the vehicles. It is just easier to have a car....
And by the way, I love your fire truck. I'm the one that helped your kids out a couple of years ago when they forgot to check the gas BEFORE they started pumping with it
What fire truck. Maybe Marty can add a picture to his profile so we can see the fire truck.
Shawn, are those solid rubber tires on the front? They look like they have a lot of rubber left?
Roger - Sounds good. I'm sure we'll have a great time at the OCF.
For everyone else, if you haven't been to OCF at lease once, it should be on your bucket list.
I can virtually promise that you will enjoy it, whether as a participant or as a spectator.
I got this 1925 TT in 1980, just the frame and boxes. It took seven years to restore and have been "in love" with it since then.
This truck was bought new in 1924 by my dad and his brothers to replace the horses and wagon used to operate the family cotton gin.
The truck come from the local Ford dealer with only the running gear and front end, no bed, cab, or seats. They set on the gas tank to drive it home.
They built a bed with three ft high boards all the way around to hall cotton seed and cotton bales. Boards were removable to haul cord wood for the wood fed boiler for the steam engines. A cab was never added.
I claimed it as mine in 1958 and with some repairs to the rotted bed and different seats, it was good to go.
Anthony, I will NOT take it to the Texas T Party, I would come in dead last as it is stock with no added transmissions.
Willie Is it hay ride time already I guess I better get ready
Possibly a silly question: Those purple tinted headlight lenses - do they start out purple, or were they originally clear and just turned purple over time?
G.R. I was long winded enough on my original message, but yes, we have a family reunion coming up soon and other events where I do some hay rides trying to get at least one adult on back to keep the kids from going crazy.
Have fun with those Model T's
Mark, exposure to sunlight causes this purple tint. I have heard that magnesium (miss-spell?) in the glass causes this. New glass is not supposed to have this material in them and will not turn purple.
This thread has evolved into what I had originally intended when I initiated the thought that TTs were becoming more interesting and that there were more threads that included TTs. Burger took my thread and made it into what we are enjoying here:
It may be manganese that turns purple, rather than magnesium? It's on this forum somewhere?
Yes Anthony, that is the correct spelling for the material in old glass that causes it to turn purple in sunlight.
I looked it up on my "puter"
Manganese is a "decolorizer" in glass production. It neutralizes iron oxides that create the green and aqua tints. If perfectly balanced (chemically), the glass will turn out and remain a bright and crystal clear. However, as the iron oxide content of the raw materials is often an unknown, getting a prefect balance is rare. What manufacturers did not realize at first was that manganese reacts with the UV of the sun to turn what is often called "sun colored amethyst". More manganese causes deeper purple shades. Many think this is the result of longer exposure to the sun, but most s.c.a. glass will purple up to its full potential within a year of being exposed. As manganese was an added cost ingredient in the glass making process, using more than what was needed was wasteful and costly and most mfr's. tried to find a close balance.
Other decolorizers were found to be cheaper and more effective and manganese was consigned to use in producing alloy steels, hence the hit-and-miss nature of the T lenses being s.c.a. or not.
More than you ever needed to know on this subject, eh ?
Here's my two. Both have been in storage for over 20 years now. Just don't have the time to work on or drive the restored one.
Unrestored but complete 1926 also a nonstarter.Bob
How many of the above TTs have T parts in the bed?
Mine has some for my current project. Erick
Mine came out of the barn with a Stewart Warner vacuum operated gas pump/tank laying under the seat. It may have been intended for the PA mountains? It was not installed.
I assume you are describing a vacuum tank for the fuel system. Perhaps you should install it...they work well for mountains...if you have any. I have one installed in my '25 TT C-Cab...been working for 30 years.
That's the one John. Your photo is much better than the original instructions I downloaded. I hid a 6 volt pump under the chassis. I have a vapor lock problem in hot Texas vs a mountain problem in PA.
It just so happens I'm in PA for a wedding. I will post a photo of the barn that kept my TT out of the elements for so long. I hope it's still standing!
Anthony, this is not TT but my Coupe Deluxe aftermarket coupe had a vacuum pump as shown in John's photo. Gas tank is low in the trunk so I decided to sneak an electric pump under the car.
Vacuum needed rebuilding and the electric was easier and probably more dependable?? I left the vacuum pump under the hood for show.
This thread is getting kinda long!, but here's my '25 TT/Pirsch anyway. "Sparky"s sitting there waiting patiently for the Melon Festival Parade in Milan Ohio to begin. The ol' flat tube radiator performed very well under a slow, hot parade. These folks really take their parade seriously! I bet there was a good 20,000 people lining the streets. It got a second place. Had to shrink the pic, so don't know how clear it'll be. trophy!
Willie, I saw your Peerless coupe vacuum tank on a TTT tour a couple of years ago. It looked functional. I am afraid to take mine apart fearing I would ruin a thin gasket and ruin the vacuum function.