...when a stuck nut won't move, and won't move, and won't move...
...then suddenly breaks loose, and inspires an impromptu, enthusiastic recitation of your most expressive military poetry? Don't you hate it when that hap;pens? I hate it when I do that.
Was it a T battle wound, or another one of your many projects? And yes, i hate it when that happens
This one was on the Dodge, but it can happen anywhere.
And I thought this forum was non violent and clean language.
Shedding skin and blood for the cause!...American mechanics at their finest..
When doing battle with stuck nuts & bolts, before grabbing the wrench or hammer......the work gloves go on.
Don't forget any of those "expressive military poetical words. Because when it comes time to put it back together, machines listen for the right incantation sequence as when taking the parts off.
... but it only hurts when you laugh - right Steve ?
It's going to feel really good when it stops hurting.
I always heard it as "proficient use of profanity." Been there, done that!
It's only blood........at least it wasn't something important like........money.........
DANG! That smarts. be careful Steve or as my daughter the nurse says "bend it, twist it, shake it but don't break it. It's hard to find spare parts for older models!"
I'm sure it is feeling better by now. One thing I have not understood is how even with the gloves on sometimes I can cut/scrape the skin underneath the glove and cause my hand to bleed. But I still think I'm better off with the glove than without it. As my Dad got older it took less and less of a scrape to cause his hands to bleed. For working on the cars where he wanted to be able to use his fingers better, he modified a pair of gloves. He cut the glove's fingers off so they only had about 1/2 inch of the finger part left. Then he rather crudely sewed an extra lawyer of leather to the top of the glove to better protect his hand if the nut “let go”.
Another item that works well "IF" you can get it to the nut, is one of the impact wrenches. That can save a lot of skin -- although you have to be careful or you will need to replace more nuts/bolts.
And yesterday my gloves actually made things worse for me for the first time I can ever remember. Usually if they are in the way, I just take them off and then put them back on. But I was riding the mower and I lifted up some low limbs to go under them. A small caterpillar somehow got inside the cuff of my glove. It must have been a little unhappy -- so it stung me a couple of times at which point I was trying to drive the mower and figure out what is causing that stinging. Very minor sting -- sort of like a honey bee -- so not any colorful language -- just a real puzzled look on my face as I tried to figure out what it was. I had not seen that kind before and it was still alive but now on the hood of the mower along with the glove. It turned out to be a Puss caterpillar that would have become a southern flannel moth. It is now part of my wife's 3rd grade bug lesson "show and tell." And yes it was "Google" that helped us figure out what it was.
I hope you are feeling better now and that the project was completed.
Hap l9l5 cut off
why I keep a cutting torch on hand. Sorry bud.
Welcome to the world where people do their own work. And, since we're in the same age bracket, what I hate is getting all the purple spots on my arms, and I don't even know what I did to get them!
Back when I used to work on my old muscle cars a lot, I was known to get so disgusted from a bout of bloody knuckles that I would just stop and leave everything laying the gravel driveway where I was working - sometimes for days.
Amazingly enough it was years before the concept of gloves occurred to me.
One time a friend of mine and I were trying to change the rear brake hose on his 1978 Dodge Magnum. The fittings wouldn't budge, so we got out the propane torch and started heating them. The brake fluid in the hose came to a boil and the hose burst, spraying both of us with boiling brake fluid!
Ah, those were the days....
My father-in-law used to say that no job is really started until you draw first blood.
Larry has identified a distinguishing feature of advanced maturity. Not this time, but often I look down and see blood and wonder, "How did I do that?"
My late wife would always say " If you come in from working in the shop with no blood showing that you hadn't been working on anything". I didn't disappoint her very often when working on any Model T's.
Same here. I'm constantly bleeding and seldom know why.
Gloves? They made it easy to find the tip of my finger when I took it off. The ER doctor thought it was funny when he said "Well, you broke it" as he was sewing it back on.
That is how the vanadium gets into our blood and makes us the way we are.
Gloves, gloves, gloves. Good ones 20.00 bucks.
And for the open blade challenged.
And finally Saw Stop, for those that like sticking their hotdogs into the table saw.
my dad always called that "green horning your self up"
Long term repetitive exposure to the sun causes the skin to lose the elastin fibers in it. this causes the wrinkles. Also, the repetitive UV exposure breaks down the connective tissue and the skin goes from thick to thin. It is not necessarily a factor of aging but of sun exposure. The skin on your backside is as old as the skin on your arms and it's a lot thicker. As the elasticity is lost, the small blood vessels get more prone to breaking and the blood oozes out from minor trauma, thus the purple and red blotches from minor trauma. The only advantage i see is that what used to require stitches can now often be repaired with unrolling the peeled back skin and smoothing it out to where it torn from and steri-stripping it back in place. I'm amazed at how little scarring I see in "older people" that I do this with. Sorry about the traumatized hand, Steve. I know the 2nd day it is more sore than the first as everything gets swollen and tender to any motion. Noel
Thanks for the lesson, Doc. The posters to this Forum are amazing.
Clean it, roll the skin back out as Doc says and paint it with New-Skin liquid bandage. Smells like peppered lacquer paint and burns like hell but after a few minutes you'll be back to work with a "bandage" that won't fall off. It'll separate the men from the boys for sure.
LOL... I guess that's why my ass looks 18 years old and everything else is worn out.
I'm not a sun worshiper, but my wife says my butt is wrinkled. It's never seen the light of day. Just lucky I guess.
I guess you can call it a "wrinkle". Most call it "your ass crack".
Mine has one too.
I had a sore spot on the inside of my cheek, so I got to moon my wife and the female doctor...
Noel: At 79 and a native "outside" Texan i cannot even drive by my shop without getting a bruise:} Is there a way to reverse the UV damage you told us about? Even wearing western type leather gloves and wrist protectors I still get black and blue--and red and purple like Steve if I am not real careful. Like you Ken, when I get peeled, I just put the layers back on and Bactine it. Gettin' old ain't for sissies.
Sorry, Tim. Once the damage is done, it's done. There are no creams, salves, or pills that will repair or replace the elastin fibers or connective tissue in the skin. All of our sun worshipers look about 10 years older when they hit 50. You can protect what you have with most any good sun screen. Also, something about the tars etc in cigarettes speeds the process up. You can predict who will light up on exiting a building by looking at their faces and seeing the "cat tracks" around the eyes and the wrinkles on their faces. It's termed "smoker's faces". Noel
When you get a little age on you things begin to happen. I happen to be on of those guys that has naturally thin skin.
People who have red hair, maybe of German, Nordic descent have what's called 'fair skin'.
If your a smoker, or stay out in the sun with no hat on, no skin protection or swim all the time,
you will get skin cancer, your face will wrinkle up and look like a dried prune.
IT WILL HAPPEN!
I am 66 years old and have had several skin basil cell cancers surgically removed from my face.
AS Doc Chicoine says the damage is done.
GO ahead stay in the sun uncovered if you want but be warned things will begin to happen whether you like it or not.
Just thought you would like to know from one who knows for sure.
I go to the dermatoligist every 2-3 months to keep up with the damage and see really scary damage done to folks a whole lot worse than me.
And if you think lung cancer is bad wait to you see folks who don't have a nose. Its not pretty and they didn't smoke.
tetanus shot up to date?
I second what Ralph said - the posters to this forum really are amazing. Thanks for the info Doc.
There's only one thing that determines the seriousness of the injury ...... are you still working on the project ?
The only way I've found to smooth out wrinkles as I've gotten older is to get fat! KGB
I'm not one to wear gloves unless I'm working with hot stuff or something that will cause blisters like a shovel or axe. I just can't get used to them. I have no dexterity with them on.
However, when I'm using wrenches, I try to always pull the wrench rather than push it. If it slips, you have a lot more control over what happens next when pulling.
And, yes, I am one of those that looks down and sees blood and don't remember how it happened. Or else my wife sees a scab or bruise and asks me what happened and that's the first I knew about it.
Happens to me almost weekly on the job. I take prednisone for my asthma along with a 375 mg aspirin every day which is supposed to control nasal polyps. This makes me prone to easy bruising and thin skin. Combine this with the equipment I work on and I usually get skinned every couple of days. My motto has become, "If you don't draw blood at least once a week, you're not doing your job." <grin>
That hurts, just looking at it. Being on Plavix, if that had been me; an emergency room visit would have been next.
Unfortunately, we see lots of these in the ER. Clean them up, roll the skin back, steri strip, a tetanus shot if necessary, and $$$$ bill! Plavix or aspirin just make them bleed more but "all bleeding stops eventually". Gloves are cheap compared to ER bills! A pretty good replacement for sutures in a full thickness cut can be had by cleaning the wound up well and approximating the edges. Apply superglue to the skin on both sides for an inch or so either side. DON'T get it into the cut. It will retard healing. Put steri strips or thin fine weave cotton strips across the cut on top of the superglue. Apply more superglue across the top of the strips. This works like concrete re-bar in concrete. Superglue has great adhesive strength but no tensile strength. The cloth or strips have the tensile strength. Our normal sloughing of skin cells will cause the strips to want to peal off in 5-6 days. Repeat the application and you're good for the usual 10-12 days of suture need. I do this frequently for kids that get upset at the sight of a needle as well as adults who will listen and are reliable enough to notify me if they have a problem. (I've used it on myself when I've done like Steve.) The adhesive on the backs of steri strips tends to slip and loosen after a day or so, while the superglue doesn't. Excess superglue can be removed with acetone.(ouch) There is no difference between superglue you buy in the store vs. the medical variety aside from packaging and cost.
Fortunately, this wasn't as bad as it looks. No ER, no bandages. Just a good washing and it's mending fine.
The discussion of ultraviolet damage reminds me that Mom used to say I shouldn't lie out in the sun to tan. What did she know? She was just Mom, right? Now I remember that whenever I go to have another cancerous part of me carved off.
Steve, moms are always right. I lost mine about 10 years ago, she would have kissed it, my dad who was in the Marine Corps. would have suggested you pee on it, you be the judge...
LOL John my dad is still in the Marine Corps and you only pee on it so that when you rub dirt in it the dirt stays in there better.
John: PLEASE tell me that Mom kissed it BEFORE Dad peed on it!
I first heard about this second hand about a veteran of the 1930s Spanish Civil War. He injured his had on a construction job in New York City, and whipped it out and peed on his hand in front of all that were watching. It healed amazingly fast, according to my friend.
Has this turned to a Mom was always right thread?
My mom - God rest her sole - WAS always right!
She was a pure New England Yankee that could trace our roots back to the Mayflower and claimed the family never moved more that a few miles from Plymouth because it was not proper.
The dark sheep of the family move to Vermont and raised purebred Morgan horses.
I was almost an outcast because I married a New Yorker and moved to NY, Ohio, and KY until I moved to RI and NH.
Toward the end Mom connected with my wife and they were "best friends" somewhat because my wife is not a wimp and mom believed she saved me from a life of failure and mediocrity.
I remember the day she said that she said I should have the 1919 T. It went like this --
After discussing some of the times we had in the T she said. "I have been waiting for you to come get that damn car out of the barn."
If had asked her about the car it would have never happened but as long as it was her idea it was OK.
On Thanksgiving a few years ago she got to ride in the T for the first time in 64 years and got to ride in it a few more times before she died.
Urine is sterile.
I guess it's better to wash out a wound with something sterile than do nothing.......as unsavory as that seems....... LOL