Here is kind of an interesting Rube Goldberg two cylinder tractor. Has two transmissions and a speed reduction belt drive from the engine to the first transmission. Has an external oil pump and original timer/coils ignition but looks like a spot for a distributor on the end of the generator.
It is/was for sale at the Toledo WA thrashing bee. It is not mine and I don't know the seller.
The tractor weights look cool.
I saw that machine when it came in Friday nite. Sure was interesting to look at!
I didn't get to go Sat or Sun....had to work.
Did you do the T "race"? ...Win again?
No, didn't take my T. I broke my arm earlier this summer and have not drove it since. Just now getting back in action and probably could have drove it.
The generator is Chevrolet with distributor and oil pump off the back. They work on a T and are kind of neat for a speedster.
Lots of fun to see it.
Thanks for the pictures.
I'd love to own it. It would be repaired (not restored) and put to work.
With it being in Washington, it might as well be on the moon.
I'd love to find a half T engine within a few hundred miles of Charlotte NC.
I'll probably never find one. I guess I'm going to have to cut one of my old blocks in half and build one for myself.
Michael - Go for it! Build you own 2 cylinder T engine.
I broke a crankshaft in my '26, and when that happened it completely tore the third main bearing our of the block. The rest of the block is ok and would be good for a 2 cylinder T engine using the front half of this block. You can have this block if you want it. I wouldn't cut up a good block just to make a 2 cyl. out of it.
Quite the wheel weights.
It's still for sale, just talked to the owner Mr Wallace, phone no is on hood, if interested call him. Interesting that I had met him a few years ago. Small world. I have no interest or connection with it or him.
They made a movie about that tractor. Called it The Hulk. I think that's what the Wizard had in mind when he called the Tin Man a "clinking clanking collection of consolidated junk".
I saw it too. Thought it was pretty crude overall compared to some I've seen. I don't know what they wanted for it but it shouldn't have been too much. If this was at the show in Toledo last weekend, I was at the show with my brother from Tacoma, he had some garden tractor stuff there.
Tried to catch up with some of the T people that were there but never managed to hook up with them. Talked to one bunch that had a T with a recently bent fender, they weren't very friendly and the bent fender must have been a sore spot, about the only responses I got was "Are you some body and fender guy trying to drum up some business?" and "Are you the official Model T inspector?" so I just walked away embarrassed and feeling stupid and went back to where my brother was. I thought the show was pretty much a dud, they weren't demonstrating anything but threshing. No plowing or feed grinding or sawmilling or anything like that. No tractor parade. There was a tractor pull, I watched that for awhile and went to the swap meet for awhile, looked that tractor over and looked over the garage sale junk that was most of the swap meet and was ready to go.
I talked to some guys about International tractors and a guy that had a little Ferguson for sale but that was about it. Couldn't find any of the T guys that wanted to visit about T's. There were 5 or 6 T's there total -- or at least that's all I saw.
It's kinda neat, but I don't get it. That entire thing looks like a home made rig using pieces and parts from whatever. Since the chassis is (at least looks) home made, wouldn't it have been a lot easier and simpler to just make it a little longer and use the whole engine?
I feel bad about the response you got from the T people there 'cause this event is right in my back yard. I don't believe any of them are in the local clubs. Mostly they are guys that have bought T's just to have one for the T races.
I had intended to have the T there but was only able to go Friday night for just over an hour, that is when the tractor parade happens.
I sure would have liked to have visited a bit and I'd even have shown you the T!
It's no big deal, I've been in the auction business for 32 years, your skin gets pretty thick. I know a thousand friendly Model T guys. I would have liked to have had a little time to stop and see some of the guys when I was there but I didn't get there until Friday night about 7:30, went to my brothers and then to the Toledo show Saturday, family dinner Saturday night, Sister in Law's birthday party Sunday, breakfast and home Monday. I'm buried in work, needed to get back. Didn't get home until 3:30 AM. I always forget how slow traffic runs in Washington and Idaho compared to here.
Why do they only have a tractor parade on Friday night? That seems pretty strange to me. People were whining about how the crowd was down this year, maybe it's because they don't do anything. The only thing going on was some hit and miss engines running. No baling, no sawing, no tractors running, no plowing, no nothing. Just a couple rows of tractors setting there. Most people could walk past all of them and they all look about the same except for the color.
Well, it's not my deal, I'll probably never go back so I don't care what they do.
The sweet corn was great. And cheap.
I invite you to the best thrashing/tractor/steam exhibition show bar none, 3rd week of July in Lynden Washington.
I promise the best damn show you have ever been witness to. Nothing better than a 50 hp steam engine running an honest to god old time original saw mill,cutting 4x4's 6x6's and even larger beams and not to forget the smell of fresh cut saw dust in the air. There are huge engines both diesel and steam plus dozens of make and brake engines running all sorts of pumps and industrial equipment. A real live blacksmith hammering away at red hot metal forming all kinds of parts and pieces. Steam tractor threshing machines operating at full speed, 100-200 restored and original tractors on display.
I will personally guide you through each and every exhibit. I can offer you my original barn fresh 1912 touring for your transportation. On Thursday there will be an antique car show for your pleasure.
I will also offer the best Hamburgers and church ladies homemade pie and ice cream to ever pass your lips. I only hope this will help make up for the distasteful way you were treated by local Washintonians. We are not all like that and I take it personally that you were treated that way.
We are friendly out going and damn fine model t'ers in Washington State. I assure you and your family will be warmly received and you will enjoy the show and all it has to offer.
p/s I can arrainge the viewing of a private brass car collection that will be right down your alley. The production and machine shop operation of this collection will amaze you for their creativity and reproduction of the most minute parts.
Thanks. My brother has gone to Lynden many times over the years and used to go to a lot of small shows. He can't see to drive any more so his wife has to go and drive him. This was the only weekend I could get away so I went out to take him to it and spend a day with him. We are both getting pretty old. He mostly sat in a friend's booth and visited with his old friends. I spent a lot of time there, too, and saw and met a lot of nice guys who like the same kind of stuff I do. We told a lot of stories and ate some corn and Strawberry shortcake that somebody's wife had brought along. He has one of the finest and largest collections of garden sized tractors in the state including one of the only complete sets of Gibson tractors from the A to the Super D2. He has a LOT of stuff. He was in the garden equipment business for 40 years and started saving tractors back and restoring them when all the other dealers were selling them for scrap. He has some cool stuff. www.lenstractorcollection.info
Maybe some time I can make it to Lynden. I appreciate the invitation.
The other one in Washington I want to go to is the one at Pomeroy. I know some guys down there and would sure like to see their new museum. I donated some literature to their displays.
Happens to me all the time when so-called "T people" show up in their rides at a tractor show or fair. Often a small group will appear, usually enroute to some other event, and troop the tractor line. They stop at my collection, make some snarky comment to me or among themselves about my girls not being "real Model Ts" because they've been turned into tractors. They quickly move along to gush over the 278+ identical Farmalls and John Deeres that all blend together into an indistinguishable sea of red and green.
I'll add here that I also have a 1930 Model "A" Town Sedan and a couple of "A" doodlebugs. When "A people" appear at tractor shows and fairs, their reactions are completely different - they seem to LOVE seeing a Model A doodlebug sitting on the tractor line and pepper me with questions about what I have for transmissions, rear end, etc. One crowd asked me to pull my '30 AA doodlebug over to the area where they had their cars parked so they could get a group picture.
I've given up trying to figure out what the cultural difference is - not worth my time or effort. And, with regard to opinions rendered with sniffs of superiority as to whether or not my girls are "real Model Ts," only my opinion matters to me and I say they are.
The friendliest and most enthusiastic people at a show seem to be the Farmall and John Deere owners who are fascinated by something different. They are relentless about recruiting me to attend some other show, pull, etc. because "you NEVER see doodlebugs at these things!!"
Despite having been raised around Model As and owning three myself, I always considered myself a "T guy" and the first vintage vehicle I purchased when I had the funds was a '24 TT C-cab. But, now, thanks in no small part to the reaction of some "T people" to my vehicles, I just describe myself as a "doodlebug guy."
My wife and I stumbled across a tractor meet in Bozeman back in the 80's on our bike traveling cross country.
There was a 50HP Case steamer they were plowing with.
It had TWENTY plows on the back with a pretty girl on each one to drop them down one at a time.
Plowed up a pretty big patch of prairie.
That steam engine didn't hardly grunt...it just pulled the plows along.
Yeah, that's the kind of stuff I like to see!! I get pretty bored walking past rows of pretty painted tractors not doing anything.
That was probably the Barnes Steam Show. It was great. I probably had some engines there. I went to it every year for years and took engines, Model T's, tractors, etc. Too bad it is gone now.
The more I think about that Case steamer I think it was a 150 HP tractor.
Does that sound right?
The big Case at the Barn's show was a 110HP Case. There are no 150 Case steamers existing today. There is a boiler from one that was scrapped and it is displayed at the Rollag show in Minnesota.
This 1/2 Model T engine was at Chickasha a few years ago, in the line-up of trailers in the parking lot, it sold before going in the gates. Don't know what it went for or to whom.
A lot of "Holier than thou" antique automobile types look way down their noses at speedsters. I have had speedsters for a long time. Although I don't try t make show cars out of them, I always try to restore them back close to "as was". I have long argued that speedsters are as much a part of automotive history as any Packard or Pierce Arrow. Model T tractors are also. I love them and wish I had one.
What I REALLY wish I had is any one of the tractor doodle bugs that my grandfather had back in the early '30s, or maybe even earlier. They sat in a junk pile when I was small. I used to go out and play on them often. I would tell my folks that I wanted to fix them up when I got bigger and they would say "that would be nice". Then my grandparents sold that ranch. And the junk pile disappeared. I never did get to find out what happened to them. At least they weren't model Ts. They were 4cyl Chev doodle bug tractors. I still wish I could have one.
Anyway. Thanks all for the tractor tales! I enjoy them.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Chevy generator is there for the oil pump because there is no other way to move oil without the T flywheel. Distributor was not used because two of the T coils were kept and a T generator gearing is not correct to run distrib.
I like old tractors. This one is pretty neat. We are working on a Cat 60 at present.
It is clear that the timer and original coils are connected but you have to wonder what the coil is/was for under the generator.
I wondered about that too. Possibly the chevy distributor was tried and did not work. Seems that they would remove the coil too. Maybe there was some other engine in the tractor at some point.
The gentleman that owns it has around 100 cars on his property all years and makes, he also has a ranch in N. Dakota with at least that many or more. If you're traveling between Seattle and Portland and know where to look you will see them
on the east side of I-5 north bound near Vader Toledo area.