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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Bohlen, Severn MD on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 09:33 am:

Saw this on Craigslist

http://palmsprings.craigslist.org/cto/4643093207.html

If it's real it may be a good deal. I am on the wrong coast unfortunately, I have no relation to the sale just wanted to pass it on.

Larry


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 09:41 am:

the headlights are electric can't see enough of the rest of the car


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 09:50 am:

Body & fenders appear to be 1911.

Front axle and wishbone are later.
Wheels are demountables.

It would be worth a look for someone local though!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 09:53 am:

Thats the kind of car you have to race out and have a look see as fast as possible. It may be sitting on the correct original frame and open valve motor etc.. Many years ago there was a similar car that was a mix of wrong parts, bad pictures...and everyone poo poo'ed it. It turned out to be a correct 09 with the correct chassis, engine, and rear end for 3,500..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Bohlen, Severn MD on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 10:11 am:

Ed,

I agree that's why I posted it.
You just never know.
If any of he forum folks go look at it u would love to find out.
Post a report back.

Larry


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Chaffin on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 10:12 am:

Late front mount and batteries on running board most likely indicate 20's chassis; however, you never know. I e-mailed the seller yesterday and requested a few more photos. Still waiting. Name is Jim Bissell. Just kidding.:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Bohlen, Severn MD on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 10:16 am:

Mark,

You're BADDDDDD!

:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Chaffin on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 11:08 am:

Couldn't help myself. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 11:23 am:

Ed-
Are you talking about the fishplate 1909 Hearse?

I agree this car looks to be a 1911 with some replace parts.

Mark-
Please post any photos that you get.

It looks like original upholstery that was painted with Elasto-seal Snow Roof!

: ^ )


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 11:46 am:

Keith, I don't remember, it was a while back, the car was back east in a basement garage, wrong sheet metal, ugly with stuff all over it, but it turned out to be the real deal. Everyone ate crow that day I remember.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 11:53 am:

With just two crappy little pictures you can't be sure what's there, but I think the chassis looks like 17-25.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Chaffin on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 02:25 pm:

Will do. Still attempting contact.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Warren Webb on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 02:36 pm:

This was listed a while back on ebay and they wanted $75,000.00 for it. It was bid to $35.000 but no sale and then on another dealer site.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Greg Whaley, Georgetown Ontario Canada on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 06:39 pm:

Tom Stewarts 1909 Canadian Car is listed locally for sale.......

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/markham-york-region/1909-ford-model-t/101507 6169?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

75k for it and the trailer.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 08:49 pm:

If anybody ever offered 35K for that mess, the seller should have grabbed it and run like mad. Without a closer, better, look (like Ed pointed out), one cannot say much with any certainty. However, I would be surprised if that car is worth more than 15K, and could be below 10K. If you doubt that. Just ask Kim Dobbins. His early project was in so much nicer condition with lots of correct early stuff. And he wound up parting it out because he couldn't find a buyer for the whole thing. For well under 20K.
That is my opinion.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 08:02 am:

Looks like a mutt!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 08:11 am:

Wayne, the craigslist car is only $7,500 - can be a good deal for someone close by. Kim's 09/10 project had a repro engine and a repro body - too much of a kit car for most buyers, I think. For me, (if I had the money) I would have wanted either the engine or the body original to summon up feelings enough to make the effort of restoring such a project.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Monday, September 01, 2014 - 06:35 pm:

Roger, My comment was based upon Warren W's comment. I don't know if he was correct or not about it being this car or not. I did not pay any attention to the price asked in the Craigslist ad. You are right. At $7500 it could be well worth it (mostly depending upon what the engine is), or not. Thank you for you comments and clarification.

I have been amazed by offers made and refused over the many years in this hobby. I am reminded of a probably late depression or WWII built home-made delivery truck. It would have had historic value for what it was, except the condition was too poor and too much of the good craftsmanship was missing. What there was, was a model T engine and modified frame, a '10s Overland trans-axle rear end, and part of a '20s Essex two-door sedan body, hood, and radiator. The delivery body built behind the Essex body parts was way too far gone to save, so it was basically just miscellaneous parts. Bare in mind, this was forty years ago. Those parts were not very valuable. I just missed buying it for $75, which I thought it was just worth (complete model T engines were available for $25 at that time, but I wanted it). About a month later, this same mess sold for $150. Then doubled again to over $300. Then it sold again for $600 about six months after that. At that time, the Overland trans-axle was worth about $150 IF you could find an Overland owner that needed one. (I knew a couple Overland owners, they had extras) It just wasn't worth that much, yet it kept reselling.

I had a great-uncle a long time ago. When faced with a situation where way too much money was offered for something? And turned down?! He said "Right there is where two fools met"!

Enough of my blather.
Thank you Roger K and Warren W, and all!
Mark C, still awaiting more details if you ever get any.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, ' W2


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