Transmission Bands with Removable Ears

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Transmission Bands with Removable Ears
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bud Holzschuh - Panama City, FL on Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 08:22 pm:

As I understand it there are 2 types of transmission bands with removable ears. The "rivet" type and the type shown below.

I have read (or thought I did) somewhere on the forum that you cannot use the type below on an early transmission. I have a 15 touring with an aluminum hogshead.

Can I use the band below with it ?

Thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 08:31 pm:

As long as the ears clip on tight,I don't see why not.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Trent Boggess on Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 08:42 pm:

I do not recommend the lug type demountable ear bands on cars with aluminum transmission covers. In my experience there isn't as much room inside the cover on the left hand side just about by where the demountable ear is. If you are using thick band linings, especially Kevlar, there is sometimes a tendency for the lug to jam against the inside of the cover and force part of the brake band down so that the band is continuously pressing against the drum in that one spot. This is not a good situation, especially when using Kevlar. The Kevlar will withstand more heat than the brake drum.

You can guess which one fails first.
Just sayin...

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 09:15 pm:

I have found the lug type hard to install even on the starter cast iron type too with new band linings. I have and seen done a bit of filing to the lugs to make them fit.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Eyssen - Abilene TX on Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 09:54 pm:

I second what Trent said. Put in Kevlar and did not have room for rear band. Took out band and replaced with rivet style and it slipped right in. On one car I ground down part of the rear clip and it worked.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Wednesday, September 03, 2014 - 11:22 pm:

I didn't see that warning, so I used one band of that style when assembling my engine with a '15 hogshead last month. Fortunately my lug type band is in the low drum position, not in the rear where Tim had problems - plus I have kevlar on the brake band only - don't want to experience burned out linings in a steep hill like Chris just did on his long trip. I have wood on the low band and old stock Scandinavia on the reverse. No problems experienced yet after only about 150 miles - the brake is even better than I expected with 3:1 in the rear end.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Sole - Castelldefels (Spain) on Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 08:18 am:

I had never thought about using a mix of band lining materials. That's one way to get along with EVERYONE on the forum! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Thursday, September 04, 2014 - 09:24 am:

It's not for getting approvals, it's for driving & getting the best & safest service out of the bands with the least risk for drum failure :-)

Since the engine is a '26/27 style with threaded holes to attach a late style hogshead I made a bracket so the light weight '15 hogshead also could be attached and strengthen the engine/trans assembly:

trans bracket

I wanted a high volume oiler, but didn't really want to cut a hole in the 99 year old hogshead.. With a high tension magneto and no magnets on the flywheel I could route some extra oil out through the magneto contact hole. A diverter on the inside is supposed to feed oil from the flywheel. I'll check the resulting flow one of these days..
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