Wheres the rest of the car?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Wheres the rest of the car?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 03:22 pm:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Superb-Original-1912-Model-T-Ford-Mother-In-Law-Roadster -Body-Brass-Era-Pre-16-/181518586693?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits =Make%3AFord%7CModel%3AModel+T&hash=item2a4359d345&vxp=mtr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Darel J. Leipold on Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 03:38 pm:

Move the decimal point one notch to the left and one comes up with a value closer to what it is worth. It probably would bring $5,000 plus at auction.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Barrett on Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 05:23 pm:

I've seen a number of listings from this seller with misplaced decimal points.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Mazza on Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 05:51 pm:

I don't think it really matters, the body will not sell. It is a good set of good pictures for reference! Hope everyone here saves them!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Mazza on Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 09:11 pm:

whoa still too expensive http://www.desertclassics.com/Ford12Trr.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Saturday, September 06, 2014 - 09:14 pm:

$500-$1000 at most. where's the rest of the car?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 01:05 am:

I may need help to save them (the photos), but would like to. I have parts for a '12 MIL roadster to build up. These photos would help a lot. Although, maybe I could sell what I have for a couple grand? I really could use the money for another car. I have too many projects anyway.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 04:14 am:

I believe that is the seller who bought an original torpedo roadster body a couple of years ago off of ebay.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wes Nelson ........Bucyrus, MO on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 07:24 am:

for those of you that want these pictures, here they are...































Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wes Nelson ........Bucyrus, MO on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 07:45 am:

...food for thought...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/09-to-early-1911-Roadster-Body-Ford-Model-T-Collector-Brass-era-model-a-/181512986459?hash=item2a43045f5b&vxp=mtr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chuck Hoffman - Gold Country of Calif. on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 09:34 am:

Looks like a no-brainer to me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Derek Kiefer - Mantorville, MN on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 09:42 am:

Funny, when I saw the price I knew exactly which ebay seller had it before I even looked at his username. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 10:36 am:

Say what you will, this guy has one of the most interesting collections of cars, trucks, fire engines, memorabilia, etc., in the country; buys and sells all the time and is more than willing to step up and pay what it takes to buy interesting and unique original stuff. He probably has 200 original or restored cars and that many more projects. Warehouses and storage units packed to the ceiling with bodies, parts, memorabilia & collectibles. He recently had a buyer fly in from the southeast to hand carry one of the Silver and Gold Model A dealer awards from the 1960's back to his collection.

Where would you ever find another body like this? This is the reference body for anybody restoring, reproducing or documenting an original.

Realistically yes, you can buy a re-pop for a few thousand dollars if that is what you want. You can build a plywood body with a couple sheets of CDX and a jig saw in an afternoon if that is what you want. But as far as I know, there are no originals around better than this one. Money is just a way to keep track of who is going to own it until the next person stores it for the future.

Money is relative. To some people, Bob included, these dollar figures are not large or out of the realm of day to day dealings. There are several people who frequent this forum who are worth easily 50 to 100 Million dollars. What is ten or twenty thousand to them? They are not the only people who collect, buy, sell and trade Model T parts. What are 1918 Coupelet bodies worth? What are 1911 Torpedo bodies worth? What are totally original 1914 Roadsters worth? Bob stepped up to pay whatever it took to own those and none were cheap. The 14 roadster is probably as correct as any in existence. What is it worth to have a 1914 totally original down to the seat cushions with a local history from the day it was sold new? What difference does it make to a serious collector how many dollars it takes to own it if you want it and have the money? You can always get more money but once it is bought by another collector you may never have a chance to own it again in your lifetime. How many of you have sold a Model T body or bought one as rare and original as this one? What is the reference point for what anything is worth? Dollars are just like pegs on a Cribbage board, a way of keeping score.

Now, all that said, I don't think this will bring $25,000. But it will bring interested people to the table, it will bring him contacts of people who are not only interested but may have something to trade, something similar for sale or something that will enhance this - such as a chassis that is just right, correct year, correct patina, right price - that he will end up with that will make a complete car out of the combination. Putting it on ebay is a way to get world wide exposure for free. That's a good deal in anybody's book.

If I remember right, he paid about $15,000 for this and there were several other bidders up to the $7-8,000 range. That was several years ago. It can not be worth less today, even though another bidder or buyer may not appear for this listing for sale.

My take on this is that it is worth in the high teens or low twenties. It would be interesting to see what it sells for or at least what the high bid was and where it goes but it is on a buy it now listing.

Interesting to note also, is that with millions of dollars worth of sales on ebay to buyers all over the world, hundreds of purchases on ebay from sellers all over the world, Bob has perfect, 100% positive feedback.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Don Watson -Florence,Colorado on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 02:15 pm:

Stan,
That is very well put
I have a Cribbage board,all I need are some pegs.
With out people like Bob many of these treasures would be lost forever.

-don


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Sunday, September 07, 2014 - 04:42 pm:

Well,I am certainly glad some folks dont have money issues these days!.


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