Vee Radiator ?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Vee Radiator ?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pamela Collinson on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 08:14 am:

I had a guy tell me about a 'V' radiator for a Model T, sitting in an orchard shed so went to have a look. There are 'T' bits around the place but I picked that it is not for a T. though was wondering if anyone can identify . Made by McCord, which some books say made radiators for Ford but ???radiator jpeg


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By keith g barrier on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 08:36 am:

You did bring it home didn't you? Neat radiator for a speedster, don't know what it was made for. KGB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 08:47 am:

I hope you grabbed it, it is a rare accessory radiator for the Model T Ford.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pamela Collinson on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 08:59 am:

Certainly looks similar but it has no 'ears' to mount it to the chassis and appears to have 2 blind threads in the bottom of the bottom tank as if for mountings. I will re-check my measurements.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 09:10 am:

Perhaps the holes are for a mounting bracket that allows the radiator to be used with different cars.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 09:19 am:

I would say it is for a small Paige car. see if it has two mounting holes for a name plate at the top. charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 09:37 am:

There is a radiator apron for sale on T-bay right now, maybe it could be modified for use as an adapter for this radiator.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-T-Ford-Radiator-apron-/281425579678?pt=Vintage_Car _Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4186458e9e&vxp=mtr


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 10:01 am:

How's about a photo of the rear - water inlet & outlet easily identifiable if Model T.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 10:04 am:

1915 or so Paige, Oakland, and others had similar grills, but they are taller than the accessory copies for "streamlining" the Model T. The measurements will tell the story.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Morsher on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 10:26 am:

I dont believe it is for a Paige. A Paige radiator has a shell separate from the radiator. I had one , and needed to be cut down, but then looked great on a T speedster.

This one pictures is neat.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 11:07 am:



Looks like this one to me. Maybe mountings were different for different cars.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 12:22 pm:

Tim my 1919 page rad is one piece just like this one, but mine is taller as it is a bigger car. still need to see if it has the two holes for the name plate. charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Morsher on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 12:48 pm:

Nice ad, Richard. Charley, I had forgotten that I had to fill a big round hole that the Paige nameplate attached. Not sure how many years Paige's had similar radiator, but the one Pamela shows sure looks like an aftermarket T rad.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 02:54 pm:

Paige used a V-radiator from 1915 to about 1919, with a couple models until I think 1921 (which were MUCH taller). Being a long-time owner of a 1927 Paige, I have looked at a lot of Paige cars and parts over the years. I don't think the radiator in question is from a Paige, as they generally look somewhat different. I could be wrong on that, I have never seen the '15/'16 radiator up close, so it could be that.
That is a beautiful radiator! It would be nice to see it find its way onto whatever kind of car that had it originally. Otherwise, it would look great on a model T!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 03:35 pm:

the rad on my Paige looks just like this one but taller 28''.it is a 1919-6 with a 127''wheelbase.they made smaller 6s in the teens. the holes for the name plate is 3''on center lines. hope we get more pixs. charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kohnke Rebabbitting on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 05:52 pm:

The Blind hols may line up in the frame with the Model T bolt holes.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pamela Collinson on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 09:45 pm:

I've had a measure and it stands at 23" from it's flat base to the top of the filler neck and 21 1/2", with webbing/ hood lacing, say 21 3/4" wide at the hood support strip.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pamela Collinson on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 09:50 pm:

Central water inlet pipe to top tank and outlet is bottom right side. Both pipes are smaller than standard Model T.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Tuesday, September 09, 2014 - 09:11 am:

Is the radiator itself in a V or just the grill? Those wire grills can reduce air flow by 20-30%.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Tuesday, September 09, 2014 - 04:09 pm:

ken. the rad is a full v just look at it.charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Tuesday, September 09, 2014 - 07:07 pm:

I wonder if that's the same as used on some of the Mercury Speedsters?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - 12:07 am:

Pamela C's radiator is clearly a true V style radiator, even if not a deeper, or sharper, V. A couple other pictures above are also clearly true V style, as were the mid to late '10s Paige radiators. The speedster pictured above by Ken K is a V style shell over a flat radiator. Both methods were used back in the day, both by automobile and accessory manufacturers. Maxwell used a V style shell in the mid to late '10s. But I think they had a flat radiator. Maybe one of our Maxwell people will chime in here, and clarify that.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Trevan - Australia on Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - 02:12 am:

The second down pictured radiator is not so uncommon . I have seen [as in this picture] cars in USA using this radiator .
This radiator was standard equipment on the DELUX'
bodied DAVIES & FEHON' CARS [as pictured ]and must have been available as an accessory here as i have seen them old pictures of 'Ts.
I am using one a car[pictured below] that i am restoring at the moment.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pamela Collinson on Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - 08:29 am:

Yes the radiator core is in a 'V', both front and rear faces and the V is about an angle of 126 degrees as best I can ascertain. As stated, it is a honeycomb construction as opposed to normal(?) tube and fins, however the honecomb has square holes which is a McCord design (I understand). The top of the bottom tank forms a flat "shelf" inside the engine bay.
The '15' car pictured above's radiator appears to have a central crease in front of the top tank and the "Quick-cool" has a central 'beak', neither of which this one has.
I have yet to get a spare chassis out of the loft to sit it on, but appears too wide to fit between chassis rails but too narrow to sit right across a chassis. I wondered if the blind threads are to attach it to a support member ? Bolts probably about either side of front spring mount.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Meixner on Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - 01:11 pm:

I have the very same radiator as in the original pix. It does not have ears on it as T radiators do. Mine has an outer shell that is brass. The outlets are the wrong size and location for a T. A possibility is speedster Chevrolet, but would love to know for certain. Steve


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By charley shaver on Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - 03:45 pm:

Pamela! the holes in the bottom of the rad are for studs that hold the rad down to the flat cross member.my Paige is not sharp on the front like the ones for mod t. the outlets are center & r.h.. could you look for name plate holes, they may be broken off . Steven I don't think the shell comes off your rad. thanks charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Meixner on Wednesday, September 10, 2014 - 04:11 pm:

Charlie, you are right about the shell, it is soldered on to the rad. Steve


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ivan Copping on Friday, September 12, 2014 - 12:33 am:

Hmmm There is one looks just the same for sale on an internet auction site in New Zealand at the moment.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Pamela Collinson on Friday, September 12, 2014 - 03:57 am:

Has anyone got pictures of the Paiges with these radiators ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Friday, September 12, 2014 - 07:40 am:

1917 Paige 46 HP roadster and cloverleaf phaeton.



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Friday, September 19, 2014 - 10:16 pm:


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