I had a guy tell me about a 'V' radiator for a Model T, sitting in an orchard shed so went to have a look. There are 'T' bits around the place but I picked that it is not for a T. though was wondering if anyone can identify . Made by McCord, which some books say made radiators for Ford but ???
You did bring it home didn't you? Neat radiator for a speedster, don't know what it was made for. KGB
I hope you grabbed it, it is a rare accessory radiator for the Model T Ford.
Certainly looks similar but it has no 'ears' to mount it to the chassis and appears to have 2 blind threads in the bottom of the bottom tank as if for mountings. I will re-check my measurements.
Perhaps the holes are for a mounting bracket that allows the radiator to be used with different cars.
I would say it is for a small Paige car. see if it has two mounting holes for a name plate at the top. charley
There is a radiator apron for sale on T-bay right now, maybe it could be modified for use as an adapter for this radiator.
How's about a photo of the rear - water inlet & outlet easily identifiable if Model T.
1915 or so Paige, Oakland, and others had similar grills, but they are taller than the accessory copies for "streamlining" the Model T. The measurements will tell the story.
I dont believe it is for a Paige. A Paige radiator has a shell separate from the radiator. I had one , and needed to be cut down, but then looked great on a T speedster.
This one pictures is neat.
Looks like this one to me. Maybe mountings were different for different cars.
Tim my 1919 page rad is one piece just like this one, but mine is taller as it is a bigger car. still need to see if it has the two holes for the name plate. charley
Nice ad, Richard. Charley, I had forgotten that I had to fill a big round hole that the Paige nameplate attached. Not sure how many years Paige's had similar radiator, but the one Pamela shows sure looks like an aftermarket T rad.
Paige used a V-radiator from 1915 to about 1919, with a couple models until I think 1921 (which were MUCH taller). Being a long-time owner of a 1927 Paige, I have looked at a lot of Paige cars and parts over the years. I don't think the radiator in question is from a Paige, as they generally look somewhat different. I could be wrong on that, I have never seen the '15/'16 radiator up close, so it could be that.
That is a beautiful radiator! It would be nice to see it find its way onto whatever kind of car that had it originally. Otherwise, it would look great on a model T!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
the rad on my Paige looks just like this one but taller 28''.it is a 1919-6 with a 127''wheelbase.they made smaller 6s in the teens. the holes for the name plate is 3''on center lines. hope we get more pixs. charley
The Blind hols may line up in the frame with the Model T bolt holes.
I've had a measure and it stands at 23" from it's flat base to the top of the filler neck and 21 1/2", with webbing/ hood lacing, say 21 3/4" wide at the hood support strip.
Central water inlet pipe to top tank and outlet is bottom right side. Both pipes are smaller than standard Model T.
Is the radiator itself in a V or just the grill? Those wire grills can reduce air flow by 20-30%.
ken. the rad is a full v just look at it.charley
I wonder if that's the same as used on some of the Mercury Speedsters?
Pamela C's radiator is clearly a true V style radiator, even if not a deeper, or sharper, V. A couple other pictures above are also clearly true V style, as were the mid to late '10s Paige radiators. The speedster pictured above by Ken K is a V style shell over a flat radiator. Both methods were used back in the day, both by automobile and accessory manufacturers. Maxwell used a V style shell in the mid to late '10s. But I think they had a flat radiator. Maybe one of our Maxwell people will chime in here, and clarify that.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
The second down pictured radiator is not so uncommon . I have seen [as in this picture] cars in USA using this radiator .
This radiator was standard equipment on the DELUX'
bodied DAVIES & FEHON' CARS [as pictured ]and must have been available as an accessory here as i have seen them old pictures of 'Ts.
I am using one a car[pictured below] that i am restoring at the moment.
Yes the radiator core is in a 'V', both front and rear faces and the V is about an angle of 126 degrees as best I can ascertain. As stated, it is a honeycomb construction as opposed to normal(?) tube and fins, however the honecomb has square holes which is a McCord design (I understand). The top of the bottom tank forms a flat "shelf" inside the engine bay.
The '15' car pictured above's radiator appears to have a central crease in front of the top tank and the "Quick-cool" has a central 'beak', neither of which this one has.
I have yet to get a spare chassis out of the loft to sit it on, but appears too wide to fit between chassis rails but too narrow to sit right across a chassis. I wondered if the blind threads are to attach it to a support member ? Bolts probably about either side of front spring mount.
I have the very same radiator as in the original pix. It does not have ears on it as T radiators do. Mine has an outer shell that is brass. The outlets are the wrong size and location for a T. A possibility is speedster Chevrolet, but would love to know for certain. Steve
Pamela! the holes in the bottom of the rad are for studs that hold the rad down to the flat cross member.my Paige is not sharp on the front like the ones for mod t. the outlets are center & r.h.. could you look for name plate holes, they may be broken off . Steven I don't think the shell comes off your rad. thanks charley
Charlie, you are right about the shell, it is soldered on to the rad. Steve
Hmmm There is one looks just the same for sale on an internet auction site in New Zealand at the moment.
Has anyone got pictures of the Paiges with these radiators ?
1917 Paige 46 HP roadster and cloverleaf phaeton.