Gas lamp burner

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Gas lamp burner
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Elliott on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 03:11 pm:

The small, v-shaped ceramic burner inside the gas lamp of my 1914 T broke inside the brass base. It was a fairly clean break so I superglued it. Will this still work when I hook up the gas and fire up the lamp, or will the heat melt the glue? I know the dealers sell reproduction burners but they aren't cheap, so I'm hoping I can still use my original one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tony Barchock on Monday, September 08, 2014 - 03:14 pm:

http://supergluepds.com/Docs/Pro%20Seal%20Future%20Glue%20and%20Future%20Gel,%20 N50102%20-%202008.pdf


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Tuesday, September 09, 2014 - 07:34 am:

Bill,

In a word, no. Ton's chart shows that the burner heat will melt the glue easily.

Watch eBay, the burners frequently sell much cheaper than the price for new ones from the vendors.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Marty Bufalini on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 11:22 am:

And while we are on the subject, my burner broke, too, and I had no choice but to rush order a new one (I needed it in time for the Gaslight Tour at OCF). But, I noticed on the old one I took off, that there were two small fine cloth "strainers" up just before the ceramic (lava?). They did not come with the new one. I put those "strainers" in the new one but noticed when I lit the lamps, that the new burner had a flame that was a little different than the other (old) burner. Is that a function of the newness or the strainers?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 11:41 am:

Those strainers keep calcium carbide particles from clogging the tiny gas jet holes.

You need two matched burners. Otherwise one will be brighter than the other.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Cascisa - Poulsbo, Washington on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 05:57 pm:

Bill,

Let me know if one of these would be useful.

Be_Zero_Be


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean Dorholt - Mpls, MN on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 06:26 pm:

Bob, I am missing one that looks like one of yours on the left side of the bottom row.
Mine says ALCO DELUXE PAT122407.
If it's an extra I am interested.
Thanks Dean


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Cascisa - Poulsbo, Washington on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 06:47 pm:

Dean,

Sent you a PM.

Be_Zero_Be


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Elliott on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 06:55 pm:

Bob

Thanks for the pictures - my burners look just like the two on the bottom row, 2nd and 3rd from the right side. However, the bottom of my burners are ribbed and one is marked 1/2 F and the other (which I glued) is marked 5/8 with no letter. Do you know what the markings mean? Also, I don't see any type of strainer on either of my burners.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Elliott on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 07:05 pm:

Sorry, the marking is 1/2 FT - had to get the magnifying glass out!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Cascisa - Poulsbo, Washington on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 07:10 pm:

Bill,

I have one that is marked 1/2 FT and one marked 3/4 FT. neither has a screen. Send your address to my email.

Dean, send me your address as well.

Be_Zero_Be


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dare - Just a little South West . on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 07:55 pm:

I get asked this question frequently, "have you turned your burner the wrong way ?".
V facing the front, V facing the side... ( flame sideways or flame across the mirror for better reflection.
My take is, if the flame is wider with V side to side, reflection has to be better.
David.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Elliott on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 08:17 pm:

I was wondering about that as well, and I noticed at the OCF in Dearborn that almost every car with carbide lamps had the burners turned with the V front to back, not V sideways. Right or wrong I don't know but most chose front to back.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 08:22 pm:

David,

Actually the "Y" is oriented fore and aft, because the two jets flaming towards one another produce a fan shaped flame that is widest that way. Here's a view of a properly oriented one:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen- Central Minnesota on Saturday, September 13, 2014 - 10:45 pm:

I've heard that when they're turned with the Y sideways, the flame makes the mirror too hot and cracks it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Marty Bufalini on Monday, September 15, 2014 - 11:53 am:

Royce, thanks but by two matched burners do you mean I should put the strainers in the old one without the strainers?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Miller, Mostly in Dearborn on Monday, September 15, 2014 - 12:26 pm:

Putting the V front to back produces a flat flame centered at the focus of the mirror. This produces less glare.

In regards to Marty's question, I would put the strainers in. If the rearmost hole of the burner gets clogged or restricted, the flame will jet backwards to the mirror and crack it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Elliott on Monday, September 15, 2014 - 03:05 pm:

Where are these strainers supposed to be? I don't see any sign of them on my two ceramic burners, and if they are missing, should I be concerned?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Phil Mino, near Porterville on Monday, September 15, 2014 - 06:35 pm:

burners-1

burners-2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Marty Bufalini on Friday, September 26, 2014 - 07:57 am:

Thanks, Tom Miller.


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