I have a 24 coupe. I've installed the external key lock mechanism on the passenger side, but cannot find the knob that is needed to lock and unlock the door from the interior. Any suggestions on where to find this item or what I can use as an alternative? Thanks
Very hard to find. Nobody makes them and I don't know of a replacement part that will work.
Hard to find item! I have a 24 Coupe and was fortunate to have all of the door lock parts still with the car. Never seen one at swap meets either. Small items are tough to find.
There is an occasional poster on the forum that makes window riser handles. He might make this part also. Cant remember his name though. Maybe someone else does.
Other forum members might have one.
Is that knob the same as a 1926 Door Lock Knob?
Not sure but don't think so. They are unique to the 23-25 Coupes and sedans. Maybe D. Sosnoski knows for sure.
The knob used to open the door is the same - the hex shaped one that sticks up into the window area. The 25, 26 and 27 cars locked the door by pushing this handle in the opposite direction from opening it. The 24 cars with the wood framed doors had a separate knob which stuck through the upholstery which was used to lock/unlock the door. It was kind of like a little lever.
The good news is if you find one you probably won't pay much for it as most people probably don't know what it fits. On the other hand, finding one is nearly impossible. Even harder to find is the little escutcheon plate which goes behind it. You can make one of those that looks pretty good using a stainless steel finish washer and some filing.
You're right, Dave S., at least as to the 24 version (I can't speak about the 25-27's). The one I'm looking for would attach the lock rod that sticks through the upholstery on the inside of the passenger door.
Hold on - are you looking for one for the passenger's side? There isn't one on the passenger's side - only the driver's side. You lock the driver's door from the inside, then slide across the seat, exit through the passenger's door, then lock that from the outside with the key.
My April '24 is as David S says. A little (very little) lever inside on the driver's door to lock that door. No inside knob or lever for the passenger's side. My coupe does have an after-market (vintage) outside key-lock, so it is not a good example of what is truly correct. However, most such vintage key-lock assemblies cannot be turned from the square shaft (from the inside) unless the key is in the tumbler assembly outside. Without the tumblers being lined up (by the key), they do not turn. Many vintage cars had secondary locking mechanisms to lock the key-equipped door from the inside. They rarely used an inside knob or lever on the same shaft as the key.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Yes, I'm talking about the passenger side. I have the after market lock on the passenger side. The stem/shaft (not sure of the technical term) sticks through the fabric on the interior passenger door panel. I'm looking for some sort of knob that would go on the end of the after market lock stem/shaft.
Most hardware stores have small brass and/or chrome knobs that could be modified for use.
A picture or 2 would sure help (us that aren't familiar w/'24 coupes) understand the situation.
This might work if the slider is in place;
I have always wondered why Ford had only 1 door to enter the car when it was locked.
My 24 Coupe has the original set up with the outside entry door (when locked) on the passenger side.
It was unlocked with a key.
Must of been hard to get in the car if you pulled up next to a building really close on the passenger side and went out the drivers side and the inside lever lock was still in the locked position when you left exited the car from the drivers side!
I guess that might could have happened. I never tried it.
As David said, the passenger door originally was only locked from the outside with a key. If your aftermarket lock goes through the door, an original Ford lever may not fit without modification anyway.
My Fordor was missing one of the levers, and I thought I would never find one. I spent a lot of hours going through every little junk box at every swap meet I went to. I finally found one in an old coffee can of small parts and bolts that had about an inch of dirt and rust in the bottom. I had already gone through the parts, and almost put them back in the can when I decided to sift through the rust and dirt, and there it was! I still haven't found the right escutcheon plate.
There is a Model A lever that is different, but if you have to modify it anyway, maybe it would work at least until you find one for the T.
From an older post, is this the lever? http://www.mtfca.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=80257&post=197878#POST197878
That's the one. It doesn't go on the end of the key lock though. The door with the key doesn't have an inside lever. If you scroll through the thread in the older post you can see that the key lock fits into the latch above the handle and striker, while the inside lever is below the striker.
As far as key lock on only one passenger side door, that was so common on cars of the '20s, and continued through many cars of the '30s, that it was still common on pickups and a few cars through much of the '50s. I guess how inconvenient it seems, is just one of those things that depends upon what you are used to.
Many years ago, I left my favorite Homburg hat on the rear seat of a friend's '26 Buick sedan because I thought it would be safer there than left on the seat of my very open speedster. Somebody went into the car and stole my hat! (At a car meet) Some days, I am just glad to have an antique with doors that actually lock.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2