U Joint or Ball Cap problem?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: U Joint or Ball Cap problem?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenny isaacs on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 07:07 pm:

Still putting my 24 Touring back together and "thought" I had done it by the book. Had started it up a week ago and let it run for 20 minutes, most things were fine. After running it today with the brake off, after 5 minutes I noticed smoke coming out of the Ball Cap, which was to hot to touch. Wheels were turning fine(up on jack stands), and didn`t hear any odd noises. It did seem draggy starting. The bands are plenty loose as i have not adjusted them yet. The transmission and rearend did not have anything done to them as they were working fine before rebuild. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 07:13 pm:

Did you pack the cavity of the ball with grease for the universal? When I put mine together I load 'em up practically full, they never seem to have any problem nor run exceptionally hot.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenny isaacs on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 07:28 pm:

Did put some in, may not have been enough. Will packing grease through the cup get enough in, and how will I know enough is enough? By the way,if you couldn`t tell, this is my first T. I do appreciate all the help from everyone.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tyrone Thomas - Topeka KS on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 07:37 pm:

Did you face to fit the driveshaft housing front bushing? Critical mating to U-joint. To tight creating friction thus heat.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 08:19 pm:

It's like Tyrone said. I had the same problem. Keep feeding it grease, the smoke and heat will go away in less than ten minutes driving. In my case, I think it caused my driveshaft to bend slightly, causing vibration to increase. Guess I'll be taking it apart again soon.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By keith g barrier on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 08:32 pm:

In my opinion you cannot over grease the ujoint. I like to see some working out around the ball. KGB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tyrone Thomas - Topeka KS on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 09:16 pm:

If you were to "over grease" the excess would just push passed the front bushing and into the driveshaft. No big thing.

I agree with Dave. It just sounds like the bushing/u-joint fit maybe a bit tight or not flat, Unless you really had to work getting the u-joint pin in. keep it greased, take some short easy trips and in time the bushing will wear in.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Clayton Swanson on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 09:22 pm:

temporarily take off the cup and replace it with a grease zerk and pump it full. no such thing as too much when its new


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 10:18 pm:

I always OIL the u-joint before I put it in, and then pack as much light chassis grease in the ball as I can get it there. After it's all buttoned up, I give the grease cup at least two fill ups.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Sunday, September 21, 2014 - 10:21 pm:

I always OIL the U-Joint before installing, and then pack the ball with light chassis grease. After everything is buttoned up, I give the grease cup at least two fill ups.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Monday, September 22, 2014 - 01:56 am:

Don't forget the small grease cup for the bushing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kenny isaacs on Wednesday, September 24, 2014 - 06:54 pm:

Thanks everyone, got more grease but guess ill drop drive shaft first and double check everything.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Thursday, September 25, 2014 - 06:26 pm:

Something is binding, likely your fourth main is too tight. You probably need to drop the rear axle and refit it. On jack stands the u joint is pretty much aligned and unloaded. You can check it when you pull the rear axle assembly.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Brendan Doughty on Friday, September 26, 2014 - 07:45 am:

Kenny
If the rear is up on jack stands and the front is not the 4th main does not get any oil. It does not take much elevation of the rear to starve the back of the transmission.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Todd on Friday, September 26, 2014 - 11:43 am:

This brings to mind the subject of the oil hole in the UJ ball cap (aka 4th main). Is it at the top, where it should be?


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