Here are a few pictures of some T parts we found while cleaning out a garage.
1- accessory aluminum skinned door & panel.
What year did they use it on ?
2- interior picture of door.
3- 2 accessory T shocks.
4- an open valve T block #35060
Next Saturday I will post more pictures of more "T" treasures.
Stuff one dreams about -----Bing the rest on Scott and let me envy you .
The fore-door looks to me to be an aftermarket door for 1909-1910. The bead across the center matches the bead across the center of the back doors of cars from that era. Is there a driver side too? Are there any marking on the under side of the door?
Here is a car with these fore-doors.
: ^ )
There is only the passengers side door.I will check for markings under the door tonight.
If the block number is correct, according to Bruce McCalley's "Model T Ford: The Car That Changed The World", it was a blue touring car built on January 3 1911.
Cool find on the Door,now all you need to do is Build a 1909 Touring around it
Do you know who was the Lucky one who got Tom Stewart's car?
Wow, and I thought there were no open valve blocks left to find.
I couldn't find any markings on the under side of the door.There is still some paint & primer on the under side.Where should I be looking,& for what type of markings.
I will send you some pictures.
Yes I know who the lucky one is.I will post a picture of the car & the new owner,when I see them this weekend.
Here is the number under my fore-door:
Beaudette (Pontiac) body number B 18928
The digits are 1/2" tall.
There may be some other markings stamped into the wood pieces inside, hidden under the upholstery too.
Here's my original upholstery.
Although your doors are aftermarket and did not come with the car, they could have been made by one of the companies that manufactured bodies for Ford. There also were a few of companies that made aftermarket fore-doors for 1911 cars as well, but the distance of the opening from the dash to the arm rest is a different size and shape from the 1909-1910 bodies.
Here is my finished fore-door upholstery:
I look forward to your pictures.
: ^ )
Here is another treasure from the garage.What year is it ? It is missing the aluminum cover.What do they look like ? Are they hard to find?
I am sending you the pictures of the door.It is different than yours.The bottoms & sides are aluminum,with aluminum mounting lugs.
I sent you a message.
The usual tapered type inspection door on the hogshead was introduced in june 1911. Before there were various designs with first square, then rectangular inspection hole covers. What do you mean the aluminum cover is missing - there is a cover in the picture?
Here's the description of the evolution of the hogshead from Bruce's encyclopedia: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/S-T.htm#tran2
Haven't got Bruce's 1994 book nearby with all the pictures, someone here will recognize if this is the wider square february-june 1911 design used after #37300.
There is a cover in the picture but it appears to be home made. Just had a quick look at Bruce's book and the square cover looks nothing like any of the ones pictured. Still not sure if this is the wider later one or the narrower earlier one either.
I thought the cover should have Ford script(?)
It should have a stamped steel cover like this:
Thanks Royce now we'll know what to look for at Hershey
What does the little piece of sheet metal attached to the cover's rear crews do? Seems to go into the brake pedal assembly.
Brake light contact.
By the way, I think the pan was redesigned to be wider around the flywheel at the same time the transmission cover got wider in early 1911, so if the cover fits on a 1911-27 pan, it's the latest widest square style.
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I see it now Thanks Roger!
Check out the pictures of the last treasure we bought from the garage(we will post better pictures once it's out of the trailer). The 1909 Model T Ford belonged to the late Tom Stewart. Tom was one of the people who got me interested in Model T Fords,at the age of 5. Tom was a great Model T person & friend. He had owned this T for over 62 years. It was made in Ford,Ontario. It has Chadwick headlights & parking lights. The T is #4032.
Tom's entire estate was purchased by one gentleman. He was interested in the antique trucks & tractors. A long time friend Ross H. saw items being loaded on flat bed trailers & stopped in to see if anything was for sale. He asked if the 09 was for sale, but the price was too high, so he bought some T parts. He called me, but I wasn't home, so he contacted my son Christopher, who inturn got hold of me.
Yes the price was to high for me, so I asked him about the 1906 Cadillac. It was priced fair, so I purchased it. I thought about the T for 3 days & made the gentleman an offer of what I thought the car was worth. After several days of negotiating we arrived at a price that I thought was OK.
When I got home I told Christopher that I had bought the 09. I asked him if he would like the deal of a life time? Would you like to buy half of the car. You know what the answer was. Now Tom's 09 T has 2 caretakers.
WAY TO GO SCOTT AND CHRIS!!!!!!
It nice to see that this car has only traveled about 4 miles from it's last home, and that it is in very good hands of a good friend. Since I'm only 500 yards away,I'll visit often
Not to steal Scott's lime light here. There are some interesting facts about this car: It's history can be traced back to almost new, if not new. Tom bought it off of two brothers who painted houses for a living. Every time they painted a house, the extra paint left over went on the T, preserving it in a thick shell of paint! The two brothers bought it from the family who Tom believed, purchased it new in Ingersoll, Ontario. Tom told me this story many years ago.
Congratulations on your new 1/2 of the T! I know you and Chris will give it lots of TLC. After the weather turn cooler and you aren’t driving it as much, would you please post additional photos of the unique Canadian features? I.e. in addition to the vertical seam on the back of the rear seat, I believe there is one on the back of the front seat also. And if you see a body maker number or letter? Do you know if it was covered in any of the previous Model T Times or Vintage Ford articles? If not, I would think it would make a great “show and tell” for either magazine.
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The body maker letter or number is it located under the front seat area ?
Another interesting item,is that in 1967 (Canada's centennial year) the antique car clubs had a tour from British Columbia to Nova Scotia.
Tom drove this T from coast to coast,without to many problems.
Scott, love the T roller in your profile pics, that is swell!
The T roller was built in Beachville,Ontario(about 2 miles from my home) in 1923 from a kit made in Monroe Michigan.You had to shorten a Model T car frame,use the narrowed rear axle,put the chain sprockets on the brake drums,mount the round steering plates under the front end,hook up the steering column & install the drive & steering chains,and you where ready to go.But you have to be carefull,its top heavy.
It was made by the Dunham Water Roller Weight Co.(I think I have the name right).Has anyone seen another one like it ?
Congratulations, Scott! Would you mind posting a pic of the Cadillac, too?
I do not know for sure where they would have put the body number or "if" the did normally put a body number on the early Model T bodies. We do know that in 1912 that the Canadian supplier was stamping a G and number on the wooden front seat frame in front of the tank -- like the USA cars were done. It most likely would have been a body from Chatham, Ontario produced by Gray [various names from Gray Carriage works to finally Gray-Dort Motors]. They stopped supplying Ford of Canada with bodies sometime around 1912. We know of one well documented 1912 slab sided touring that has the "G" letter stamped into the front wooden seat frame.
Again, congratulations on your new Ford!
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I spotted Scott in the Caddy on the weekend
Here are a few pictures of our newly acquired 09 I took earlier today.
Thanks for posting the additional photos of the Canadian T. I'm looking forward to what you discover is different between it and the USA produced bodies & cars. The chassis should be about the same with the wheels being produced in Canada and 30 x 3 1/2 all around. But the body with the vertical half-round on the back of the front and rear seats is clearly Canadian. As you have time please share any other Canadian items you spot on the car. And of course -- if you find a body number on the front seat frame in front of the gas tank, please let us know.
Thank you again for posting the photos -- beautiful car!
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Here are a few pictures of the 1906 Cadillac Model K.I bought this car first,before we bought the 1909.The running gear is all restored.The fenders & hood have to be painted.The body is all wood & needs to be painted also.The motor is a 10 HP.,the piston & stroke are 5"X5".Right hand drive & chain driven.
Nice! Tulip body runabout. I love it!
Thanks for adding these photos.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2