Well, it only took me about a month... But I finally completed the conversion of Cindy's 1927 Coupe from Vaporizer to Holley NH. There were a few obstacles along the way but I got them all resolved. We had a WILMO intake-exhaust manifold in the Harris parts inventory so that was the choice for the transformation. I would like to thank Dave at Chaffin's Garage, the boys at the Thursday night Orange County Model T group, the Long Beach T experts, Greg Griffin and my Dad "Fast Frank" for all of your help! I have saved the original components to allow a return to stock if ever desired. It sure runs strong with much improved acceleration
Did you knock a hole through the block, or was it already there?
The hole in the block was there, the gas rod was drilled, I had access to Fast Frank's Garage for a valve cover plate with a hole. I did need a new pull rod, bought a new choke/mixture rod & shortened it. Fabricated a new gas line (I'll do a better one with a curve).
Here's the "Before" picture:
Did you replace the throttle rod lever #3531b (vaporizor) with a #3531 lever (standard carburetor)?
Bill - For what it's worth, that WILMO or yours is identical to the one I bought a couple years ago at Chickasha. I use it on my '27 depot hack that I bought from the family (daughter Karen) of the late Pete Cosner of the Long Beach Club. Steve Tomaso of "Steve's T Works" in Milton, WA. rebuilt the engine for me a year or two ago, and I have to say that it really runs great! I was looking for an ANCO combination manifold at Chickasha but only found the WILMO that I bought from John Denuser. Glad I found the WILMO instead of the more common ANCO (Anderson) as the WILMO is more compact, has a cleaner look to it (to my eye anyway) and the engine sure starts good and runs great. I'm sure Steve Tomaso will take credit for the good running engine (and rightfully so) but obviously, the WILMO doesn't seem to hurt either! I like the fact that it completely eliminates the problem of exhaust manifold warpage, plus I think it also solves the "question" of whether or not to run an original Ford heat pipe,....a frequent point of contention and discussion on this forum for sure!
By the way, I've been absent on the forum for several weeks as wife and I are up at our place on Lopez Island in the San Juan Islands north of Seattle, where cell phones and internet service are a real problem, but we finally found a set-up that actually WORKS (Hughs who has their own satellites) so I'm back with my usual "blabbering",.....sorry,.....harold
Ken: I did have to change the pull rod to a 3535B for 26-27 non-Vaporizer. It's the one with a kink in the middle.
There was a lot of confusion on that & I lost three days messing with the wrong one... finally sorted through the issue and the proper one dropped right into place. Luckily, the holes for both NH and Vaporizer were pre-drilled in the gas rod
Harold, I remember that Pete always had a hard time cold starting that hack with the vaporizer until we found that no matter how hard he pulled on the choke inside the car, it wasn't choking the carb. The Wilmo and NH surely made a difference in both starting and running.
Jeff - I was told that Pete carried a spray can of starting fluid in the depot hack everywhere he went. I believe it too as there was a can of starting fluid under one of the seats when I bought the car. I sure don't need it anymore! Two quarter cranks choking when cold with ignition off, always starts on third pull of the crank. When warm, always starts on one quarter pull of the crank.
The late Louie Baglietto, of the Long Beach T Club, was the builder of your car, Harold.
When Louie had it, it was a pick-up with a home-made (Louie) bed on it. This is the part that's painted tan.
When Pete Cosner purchased it from Louie, he added the top from windshield to tailgate. Pete also added the side curtains.
Mike - Thanks,.....I wish I had known both of those old fellows. From what I've heard from you and Frank Harris and a few others, those two were a couple of very well liked and respected and active Long Beach Club members.
I actually have a picture of the car when it was still an open pickup as built by Mr. Baglietto. I believe it was gray then. From what I understand, Louie was quite a "T" mechanic, and Pete Cosner was quite a carpenter! All of the oak woodwork that Pete did to make a depot hack out of the open pickup makes it quite obvious that he loved woodworking and took great pains to build a nice wood body and seats.
Shortly after I bought the depot hack from Pete's daughter and son-in-law, I got a nice note from Frank Harris telling me a lot of history of the car. In fact, Frank told me in no uncertain terms that "I had a very special depot hack and that I'd better take good care of it"! Well, some of the tan paint had begun to peel off of some of the wood parts, even before I bought the car, especially the tailgate, and I have stripped it all down and repainted it. I took a big peeling flake of the tan paint up to the Sherwin-Williams store and had them do their "computer color match" and they did a nearly perfect match. I also refinished all of the exterior varnished oak with Minwax Spar Varnish and it turned out very nice too,.....(four coats of varnish in fact). Tell Frank Harris I took him seriously,....of my five old Fords, the depot hack is still my favorite and it's for sure getting good care,....ha,ha,......harold
Oh, and one other thing,....after I repainted and re-varnished the depot hack, I was careful to replace the metal-porcelain "Last Chance Garage" sign on the left rear quarter of the pick-up box as I felt that it might help some of the Long Beach Club guys remember Pete and Louie and the depot hack THEY built! I have never been able to find out anything about the "Last Chance Garage", but it's a nice porcelain placard and looks nice on the hack anyway,..........harold
When I converted my '27 I found the hole in the block, the hole in the valve cover and no oval hole in the valve cover gasket. HF used EVERYTHING!
I would re shape your gas line to look more like the one that was in it. They looked like an upside down question mark. If you look at the improved section in the service book, I'm sure you will see a picture.
Larry: Good advice. I was planning to re-do the gas line & had the day off today. Here's the result:
I have to thank Greg Griffin again for doing most of the work. He also lapped in my gas valve so it doesn't leak & smell up the garage. Greg is a true friend and great asset to the Model T community