Hello I am new to the forum AND anything to do with the model T or A. I recently acquired both a Model T and A (I believe) in a real estate deal. I have no idea the years or actual models of both these units. Is there any way to get this information? Any numbers to look for etc.? I can post pics if needed. Thanks in advance for any help!
Post pics and you'll have answers in a few minutes.
Yes, post pictures. A Model T will have the serial number stamped above the water inlet on the side of the engine. That will tell us the date of engine manufacture. That may or may not be the year of the car, depending on whether the engine has been replaced sometime during the last ninety years. Pictures of the rest if the car will help to determine the year.
Pictures would help us help you. A Model A also will have the Legal Vehicle Identification Number (VIN)serial number stamped above the water inlet on the side of the engine. That will tell us the date of engine manufacture. That may or may not be the year of the car, depending on whether the engine has been replaced sometime during the last ninety years. Pictures of the rest if the car will help to determine the year.
The VIN number should match the bill of sale and titles for each car. Otherwise you will have trouble with title and registration.
Jeff, be aware that pictures have to be resized to under 194K to fit on the forum. A resolution of 150 dots per inch and a width of 6 inches works well.
Welcome to the forum. It would be great if you could post some photos of your cars. Are they originally from Jamaica or are you importing them? It would be interesting to see if they have any local modifications.
Can't seem to find any numbers.
The hood and radiator looks like a 1915. The body is home made and the wheels are aftermarket wire wheels. What you have is what is called a "speedster"
Did you look on the DRIVER'S side of the engine?
The touring car filled with modern stuff looks like a 1925, since the hinges on the front door are of even height and makes the door lean downwards when open. It is LHD, so the engine # would be on the driver's side of the engine on that car.
The brass radiator car with a homemade body is RHD, so the engine # would be on the passenger side on that car Nice projects
Jeff - Nobody so far has said this directly, but in re-reading your original post, you do NOT have a Model A Ford,....both of these vehicles are Model T's, and as has been explained in various way so far, both cars should have an engine number stamped into the engine block just above the top edge of the water inlet. That is the cast iron fitting that is bolted with two bolts to the side of the engine block. It is possible that one of the engines was replaced years ago with a replacement engine that did not have an engine number stamped in the block as I have described, however, it is unlikely that BOTH engines are replacement engines with no number. It often takes a bit of sanding in the area where the number is stamped, due to years of rust and/or corrosion. Use a bit of sandpaper in this area and I'm sure you'll find a number on at least one of the engines, and probably both. Hope this helps,......harold
Jeff - I should have said that following the big water pipe from the bottom of the radiator that angles up to the side of the engine will lead you to the iron fitting that is bolted to the side of the engine,.....harold
As for the 'speedster' with brass radiator.
There is no serial number over the water inlet because this motor is early, 1911 or 1912 block!
See the serial number boss next to the front plate.
The speedster is right hand drive Model T.
Early block, need the numbers stamped in the boss on the steering column side of the motor, up front, just behind the front plate. The serial number will date that early motor.
The other side shows a chain drive high tension magneto for ignition.
The other car is a '23 Model T touring, with electric starter and generator.
Nice find! Early pre-assembly-line cars and parts have considerably more value than the more common later parts.
I'd suggest taking a lot of good pictures of the brass car and its chassis and drivetrain parts so you can be informed of what early parts you have.
Good eye Dan!
Here is where to look for the serial number on the motor of the brass radiator T.
And on the other Model T, its a late '23-'25, with front fender fold for the missing radiator apron. Appears to have the high style radiator.
Here is where to find the motor number on that T.
On drivers side of the block, above the water inlet.
Thanks guys, will take another look on Monday. Any idea of the value of these?
An '11 or '12 engine is worth some serious $$.