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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Need Help!!!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Hulst on Saturday, September 27, 2014 - 09:57 pm:

I have a 1925 Fordor Model T. I purchased a Ruckstell rear end to put in it, but it doesn't seem to fit, it appears that the springs are to short. So my question is do I need to change the rear springs in order to attach the Ruckstell to the vehicle.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By joe bell on Saturday, September 27, 2014 - 10:02 pm:

use the weight of the vehicle and a 2/4 under the spring to spred them out to get the shackles in.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Saturday, September 27, 2014 - 10:04 pm:

No. You need to spread the springs. This is how I do it. The spring is already attached to the rear frame member and the body is on the car. I put a short 2x4 between the axle housing and the spring eye on each side. Then I insert the shackle in one side and add weight to the car until the spring spreads enough to get the shackle in the other side. If the wheels are off the axle, I can loosen the nuts which hold the shackle perch on both sides and let the perches move toward the center of the car. Put the shackle on the other side and then tighten up the spring perches to the backing plates and put in the cotter pin.

Anyway that's how to do it.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Hulst on Saturday, September 27, 2014 - 10:41 pm:

Thanks Guys I'll give it a shot. The body isn't currently on the frame, I'm hopeful I can get the springs spread with some human weight.

Mark


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Page on Saturday, September 27, 2014 - 10:46 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Zibell on Saturday, September 27, 2014 - 10:52 pm:

You could get a spring spreader, or make you own. http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/120657.html?1263244476


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, September 27, 2014 - 11:31 pm:

Norm's second suggestion is probably easiest. Take off the wheels, loosen the perch nuts, install the shackles, tighten the perch nuts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Sunday, September 28, 2014 - 08:00 am:

Mark,

I would also recommend you check out the posting at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/203184.html?1302225423 It shows a case where a previous owner of a 1919-25ish rear axle had installed the 1926-27 rear spring perches on the earlier backing plates. The will fit the hole just fine but they are too short for the spring to line up properly. Be sure you have the correct spring perches for the axle you have.

It also shows a technique I have used before where a scissor jack can be used to compress the spring.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Hulst on Sunday, September 28, 2014 - 07:43 pm:

Thank you for all help. I got the rear end installed this morning with help of a makeshift spring spreader. Thanks again everyone, I'm sure I'll be back on hear with more questions, and hopefully a few answers for others.

Mark


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Sunday, September 28, 2014 - 08:42 pm:

On my 21 Touring I attached one side then used a large C clamp and pulled the other side into place.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Sunday, September 28, 2014 - 10:27 pm:

If you want to build an easy spring spreader than get yourself some 5/8 steel pipe and 5/8 all thread rod. I measured the distance between the two eyes with it in the spring in the fully relaxed position and then subtracted 6" from both sides. Then take your allthread rod and "sharpen" two 18" sections to resemble a cold chistle on one end of each section. Then using a nut and washer you can slide them into the steel pipe and tighten them against the spring in the notch formed between the top of the eye and leaf. I then measured took a 3.5' section or so and slid it in the center of the pipe and then put it on a shop press to put a bend in the center of the pipe to go around the rear end. The pipe is now essentially 5/8 bar stock with the all-thread inside of it and it is very strong. and an easy 30 minute project that will outlive all of us! :-)


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