OT, older transmission ID

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: OT, older transmission ID
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chad Marchees on Sunday, October 05, 2014 - 06:46 pm:

I would like to ID what transmission this might be in my newly aquired T doodlebug/tractor. It was thought it might be an early Dodge trans, but from what I have found it isn't. There are casting numbers on the case and shifter housing, 157955-1 and 156129 respectfully. Closest I have come across is a v-8 flathead Ford trans but it is not quite the same.

Anyhow, take a look and see if you can ID it for me.









(Message edited by Chad Marchees on October 05, 2014)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 11:08 am:

Buick is my guess, year unknown.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chad Marchees on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 06:39 pm:

You may very well be right Jerry.

I found this pic--supposidly of a 1922 Buick on the assembly line. What I can see looks VERY similar.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Howard D. Dennis on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 09:26 am:

Chad, post these photos on the AACA Forum on the Buick section and you should be able to get the exact info on year and model.

Howard Dennis


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Howard D. Dennis on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 09:29 am:

Chad, here's the link:

http://forums.aaca.org/f165/

Howard Dennis


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill in Adelaida Calif on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 10:03 am:

If it is a 25 or older Buick then the shift pattern will be reversed. I don't recall what years used the transmission lock.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Miller, Sequim WA on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 06:25 pm:

I have one just like this except for the little cover on the right side and the shift tower is closer to the front. It also has the Key lock and is being used as a axillary trans in one of my TT's.
Just like Chad's it has no name on it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Putnam, Bluffton, Ohio on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 07:34 pm:

That cover on the right side makes me think a power take off could be added. Maybe it is from a truck.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Clayton Swanson on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 08:34 pm:

some of the big cars had a pto door for an air compressor. rich folk dont need to pump up a tire by hand


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Barrett on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 09:55 pm:

The shift tower and lock looks like Buick. However, in all the Buicks I have had through here I've never seen one with that unusual side cover. It looks like it has the speedo drive on it. I'n not sure when the trans lock came out but it was after 1922. The lock was discontinued in 1928, the same year the S.A.E. adopted the standard shift pattern. Prior to that, Buicks had first and reverse on the right. Ford had already designed the model A. Henry told the S.A.E. that if they wanted to standardize, they would be using the same pattern as the A or they could go pound sand.
My guess on this trans is G.M., but not Buick or Chevy. Maybe Oakland/Pontiac or Oldsmobile.
Erik


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chad Marchees on Wednesday, October 08, 2014 - 06:46 am:

So what is the shift pattern on this?

Best I could find out is that it seems like a 23-27 Buick trans, but yes, the little side cover is a mystery as to what it is. By assembly line pic above looks like it has one on it though...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Wednesday, October 08, 2014 - 07:04 am:

Here are pictures of a 1924 Buick series 24 six at Desert Classics in Butte, Mt.
http://www.desertclassics.com/Buick24t45.html

buick junk 1
buickjunk 2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chad Marchees on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 07:15 am:

Thanks to all that helped. It does seem from verification on the AACA forum it is a Buick transmission, in the era of '23-'27. On poster believes it is a '23-'24 trans from a 4 cylinder car. The cover on the rt side is for a speedo hookup and there were a brake and clutch pedal that were cut off on the drivers side. It does also (or should) have a reversed shift pattern as Erik here mentioned too.

Very interesting stuff indeed.


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