Hello folks. I just got my first Model T, its a 1924 two door sedan. Its an original car with the original interior (not restored). I am familiar with Model A Fords as I have owned two cars for over 50 years. I have many questions on my Tudor. First, my car has wood framed door, I understand the window glass winders are unique to the '24 and earlier wood framed doors. I see very few parts for these windows listed in Snyders and Langs. Looks like I'm going to need at least one crank mechanism (where the window crank handle attaches), are these available ?? Also, since I need to replace the window glass as it is still plate glass, how do the door upholstery panels come off? Currently, they are attached to the wood frame with common tacks, are these h/w store tacks what was used to hold the panels in place ?? I am looking forward to your coments and ideas. Thanks, Bruce Kile
A Tudor is a wonderful car. If your window riser mechanism is the gear in a pot metal case type I believe someone is making those available. The upholstery panels on the wood framed doors are tacked on with brads that look like small finishing nails and then the material it plucked back with tweezers or a large needle.
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I have a 24 Coupe and as far as the doors go the risers and trim is the same as I recall for the 24 Tudor.
My car has the wood framed doors and it had only one riser in it when I inherited it. It took 3 years to find the matching riser mechanism.
Good luck in finding the riser mechanism. I believe there were 3? types that were used for these cars.
The only parts made for them at the present is for the one that has the gear that R. Eagle mentioned.
Do a search on the forum and you will see some posted pictures of the different types that were used.
You might try Ebay from time to time as they occasionally show up there.
I have been going to swap meets for many years and never saw any, Not a one.
I finally found one on Ebay that was totally rusted up and bought it for 2.00 as no one wanted it.
I repaired it and it works OK.
I have some of the long screw type window risers with new boxes,all rebuilt. Contact me off line. firstname.lastname@example.org
This is the gear type riser I was talking abut and they are very hard to find. If your upholstery panels are still in place, you can't see them. If this is the type, it would be good to pick up one from Jack or someone.
Thanks for the info. I have a couple of more related questions. I assume the window channel as offered by Langs is what I need to replace the mostly missing original channel. How is this channel held in the door ?? Also, how does the window glass come out of the door and from the rear wind-down windows ?? I have not yet removed the original upholstery so it might be obvious when I do but can someone please give me an idea ?? Thanks again, Bruce Kile
The interior trim must be removed and the side trim from the wood. You can the access the window mechanism from below and it will flex enough to remove it from glass metal channel on the bottom. Then you can loosen the window channels at the top. You must slide window glass up an in at top. I am not sure how they were fastened in originally,probably a few tacks in the channels. HTH.
Congratulations on acquiring a 1924 Tudor.
Here are a few photos of mine. It's probably similar to what you have.
The glass lifts out through the top. You need to remove the metal trim pieces around the window opening. The Bailey channel should have a clip at the top and is either tacked or glued along its length. You need to un-clip it and pull it towards the interior of the car to get the glass out. It's pretty straight forward.
My window regulators are similar to the A-48105/6-A regulators the suppliers sell.
People have used a Model A type of regulator to fit the wooden framed doors when none other could be found.
I used one in my wooden frame door on the drivers side till I finally found an original.
I had to modify the mounting wood piece that screws on horizontally across the wooden door frame.