Upset over a catalog type-o (and me), Don't believe everything you read.

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Upset over a catalog type-o (and me), Don't believe everything you read.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tyrone Thomas - Topeka KS on Thursday, October 09, 2014 - 11:07 pm:

In a T/A suppliers catalog, one which I will not mention, supplied the wrong information regarding the amount of 600W oil in an A rearend. In the catalog it said 1 1/2 to 2 "quarts" to fill the rear jug. Never having an A before I took their word.
It was getting late last night so I rigged up an IV Drip (like in the hospital) type device so the oil would gravity flow from the one quart container, through a plastic tube into the rearend over night. Worked great. When I went out to the garage this morning, I found a big puddle of 600w on the floor. Upon further investigation, the true amount for the rearend is pint(s)not quarts. There was about a pint of oil on the floor. $4.00 worth of oil.
Printed right on the bottle it said pint(s).
So I learned to not believe everything I read in a catalog and to pay more attention to labels. Two reasons to be upset. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 07:19 am:

Tyrone,

The parts sellers catalogs are not to be trusted. Their goal is to sell you more parts. It's not a problem now that you are aware of it.

If you over fill the rear end, or the radiator, or the transmission, or the gas tank, it's your fault.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 08:09 am:

Tyrone,

I’m sorry that happened. I suspect the clean up would be the hardest part. In most cases that 600wt oil doesn't just wipe off of things with a single swipe of the paper towel. Someday you will probably look back and laugh about it but it is probably still too close to when it happened for you to do that just yet.

I actually find a lot of good information is included in some of the parts catalogs. For example I like many of the "Tips" in Lang's catalog, Bratton's Antique (Model A) Auto Parts Catalog, etc. as well as the notes in the Ford Price List of Parts (which will tell you if you use this later part you will also need to install this other later part etc.). But anything that people print, say, or work on is subject to mistakes. And once it is printed it is sometime quoted and used by others etc.

Royce is correct; the suppliers publish the catalogs with the goal of selling parts. But selling parts keeps the suppliers in business, which helps all of us be able to order some parts etc. With all the suppliers I have dealt with I'm sure that none of them would intentionally put "quarts" instead of "pints" just to sell additional 600 wt oil. I suspect when they did the proof reading of the catalog someone missed that one. I used to work on a magazine staff and we had about 16 different people proof read the magazine once it was in final form ready to be sent to the printer. And things still slipped through in spite of our efforts to get them all correct. And if you send the company a note -- they may be able to mark it so they correct it in the next printing. That may help the next person out. And of course your posting will also be a help to any of us planning to add fluid to the rear axle. Thank you for sharing your "oops." Often times we remember the lesson from the “oops” longer than if we had been successful.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen- Central Minnesota on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 08:13 am:

Just another reason why I don't want a Model A. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tyrone Thomas - Topeka KS on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 08:28 am:

I giggle about it already Hap. I guess if all things in life was perfect, life would not be worth living. I did call the company to let them know of the mistake.

I hear you Eric, but they do have one less pedal to push for us lazy people.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John H. Nichols on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 08:42 am:

Tyrone,

I put down some Kitty Litter to soak up some oil overnight and it worked great. My problem was stray cats. The next morning there was a dozen cats waiting to get inside my garage to use the litter.

Thought you could use a smile..

John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tyrone Thomas - Topeka KS on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 09:13 am:

LOL. Thanks for that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 09:38 am:

Wait until you go to fill the crankcase with new oil and find the drain pan is still under the car with the plug out! The new oil is ruined and your drain pan is full. Things happen to all of us. I agree that the parts supplier should have the info correct. It would be a kindness on your part if you inform them so that they can correct it in the next printing of the catalog.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Darel J. Leipold on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 11:36 am:

Model A Fords are some of the best designed and built autos of the period. The 1928 was over built. The 1931 As are great looking autos (I have two). Yes the little Ts are lots of fun and the brass loaded (1909-12) are handsome cars as well as the 13-16 brass. The 1917-25 are fun to own and drive. The 1926-27 improved models are in a class of their own. With all of that I still like my two 1931 Model As and will drive them and will show off and tour my 1910 T.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Stitt-Southern Oregon on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 11:52 am:

I always refer to the shop manual. BTW I would suggest Lubriplate spo288 in the transmission and rear end.
To our vendors, unlike most catalogers they go the extra mile with info. When do see a business actually tell you the part quality is sub-par but will work?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will Copeland - Trenton, New Jersey on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 01:39 pm:

Given the almost endless amount of parts in any given catalog sometimes you really need to just over look a typo and think, Will two quarts of fluid really fit into that small of a space?


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