Adding 35 more H.P. to my T

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Adding 35 more H.P. to my T
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 04:00 pm:

How much would I have to extend the frame on my T to add Two more Engines in line to add 35 ,more H.P. Thanks for the help.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chuck Hoffman - Gold Country of Calif. on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 04:15 pm:

About the length of an engine multiplied by 2.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Carnegie on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 04:16 pm:

I'd say put them side by side, then no need to extend the frame. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 04:20 pm:

Mark, why not add 40?
:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed Baudoux on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 04:46 pm:

If I were you, I would widen the frame and body. Maybe take two good T's and split them lengthwise. Cut one a foot off center, and the other one a foot off center the other way. Same thing with the frames. Then cut up a few good rear axles, and make one up that has two center sections side by side. Then mount two of your engines side by side.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 04:53 pm:

I Know...I Know...I shouldn't post things after I have been Sniffing 600 Weight Oil......


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 04:58 pm:

Rob,Is that a actual oil pan on the K engine or did they run total loss as the NRS?? Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chuck Hoffman - Gold Country of Calif. on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 06:45 pm:

Why only 3 engines?

6 eng


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary H. White - Sheridan, MI on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 07:07 pm:

Appears that the point of diminishing returns has been exceeded.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chuck Hoffman - Gold Country of Calif. on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 07:16 pm:

I'll bet it would be hard to beat in a noise competition though.....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tony Barchock on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 07:36 pm:

put a blower on it!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 07:44 pm:

OK Tony, I put a Blower on my T....Now What????


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stephen D Heatherly on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 07:45 pm:

Mark,:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tony Barchock on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 07:54 pm:

there is a immigrant lawn care joke in there somewhere...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tyrone Thomas - Topeka KS on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 08:27 pm:

Your right Mark, that 600w does make one think funny.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Henrichs on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 08:53 pm:

Great idea with the blower. Keeps the bugs off the windshield!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 09:12 pm:

If you want more power, put in the correct Model T Ford v8 please.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John P. Steele, Montana on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 09:47 pm:

Mark there is too much dust on that T. Dirt, mud and bugs are fine but dust is no good! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 12:29 am:

Okies came here during the Dust Bowl in the 30's. They brought the dust here and it never left. Seriously the Southern San Joaquin Valley is the dustiest place I have ever lived. That and we live next to a LARGE Dirt field. ( Except maybe when I was stationed in San Antonio Texas). Here is a picture of my family arriving here in 1939.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 02:41 am:

I want to know what that other engine is on the floor? My first thought was how much it resembles a Metz motor? But then I figured it may be a NRS motor. But I cannot tell from this view if it is a single block or cast in pairs? It does appear to be a front-mounted flywheel. Like NRS.
Just me. Always curious about early parts.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Richmond, Texas on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 03:02 am:

Since the model T V8 that Ed pictured above seems to be in short supply, Either go Model A/B/C, Ford Pinto, Chebbie II four, or V8 60 and save yourself a bunch of time and trouble.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Trent Boggess on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 11:07 am:

The engine on the right hand side is an NRS.

Respectfully Submitted,

Trent Boggess


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 11:18 am:

So if you had a Model T engine and an NRS engine in line, would you arrange it so the timers would be in the center next to each other, or at opposite ends?

Would you use the Model T transmission and controls or the NRS transmission and controls?

: ^ )


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 11:33 am:

all you need is a trailer with truck to pull it. Then put the T, as it is, on the trailer. In fact, you could get a truck big enough and load the T directly on it. No need to spoil your beautiful T.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Burger in Spokane on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 02:26 pm:

By Ed Baudoux on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 04:46 pm:

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If I were you, I would widen the frame and body. Maybe take two good T's and split them lengthwise. Cut one a foot off center, and the other one a foot off center the other way.
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I have seen pix on the forum where the Aussies did that back in the day.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 03:19 pm:

You could end up with a car that looks like this:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 03:20 pm:

Wayne. Trent is right. It is a March 1907 Model N Engine. I am still looking for the rest of the car. P.S. Any leads on a N,R or S in any condition? Thanks Mark


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 04:14 pm:

Thanks Mark! I thought I remembered you having such a motor. I do wish you well finding parts, it would be fantastic if you could put together a model N! I know of a few NRS parts scattered about. But everything I know of is currently NOT available. One good friend needs to keep stuff that he has until he gets his unique and original NRS speedster restored (hint, hint again. He does read this forum).
If I had any money to spend, I think I would be trying to find some stuff myself. The more I read about and see pre-T stuff on the forum, the more I want to try to get one. I would even consider trading one of my three Ts as is for a good pile of NRS parts.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Richmond, Texas on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 07:16 pm:

Herb, V 16 Cadillac under the hood?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 09:06 pm:

Terry, I don't know what is in there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 10:48 pm:

Wayne,
Possibly the first Ford "speedster." September, 1907:




(Message edited by Rob on October 12, 2014)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 04:11 am:

Rob,
Interesting modifications to that car's front suspension. It would be interesting to drive like that. It probably would ride better due to shifting the weight distribution back about a foot.
I think speedsters go back pretty much to the beginning of the automobile. You do know the story of the beginning of the Packard automobile? Don't you?
Thanks Rob!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 08:08 am:

Thanks Wayne. And no, I don't know about Packard. Will you begin another thread about it?

(Message edited by Rob on October 13, 2014)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 03:59 am:

I dood it! (Red Skelton fan)
Thanks Rob!
And a link, in case anyone wants to read my drivel after these threads become separated.

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/486487.html?1413272851

Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 10:35 am:

Mark,

Say hi to Rose of Sharon & ma. What ever became of brother Noah?
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/485747.jpg


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 11:55 am:

Jerry, He went with my Cousin Henry Fonda to pick cotton at he Sun Set Camp in Arvin.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chuck Hoffman - Gold Country of Calif. on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 07:47 pm:

Mark, WAIT!!! Don't cut up your car. Someone already made one for you. It's for sale too!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Stewart -Calif. on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 - 02:27 am:

What is that yellow thing??? A Giant Roto Tiller??? Naw My 14 T is 95% original. I have the documentation of the other three owners before me going back to 1914. One family owned it for 74 years. It was last overhauled on in 1930. I would never touch it. Just drive it as it is.


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