Timer help

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randy Glowacki on Sunday, October 19, 2014 - 06:43 pm:

I replaced my timer with a new Tw timer.There is still the original felt seal and timer shield. Should I replace them with the modern cam seal and does the old felt just pull out and the new seal press in ? And does the new seal require the timer shield ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Kriegel Mishawaka Indiana on Sunday, October 19, 2014 - 06:45 pm:

Randy I just replaced my timer with a TW . Since there was no oil leakage past the old felt and seal I left them in. If something is working I leave it alone. The TW is working great !


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will Copeland - Trenton, New Jersey on Sunday, October 19, 2014 - 06:51 pm:

The news modern seals are not a tight fit. I used a little glue and then put RTV around the edges for a good seal.I have the TW timer and love it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Conte on Sunday, October 19, 2014 - 07:47 pm:

From Lang's

The area in the timing cover where the seal mounts varies in diameter and occasional this seal fits loosely in the timing cover. To fix this situation place the seal in a vise between two pieces of wood and squeeze front and back sides together which will increase the outer diameter and improve the fit.

It worked for me.

Mike


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JohnH on Sunday, October 19, 2014 - 10:41 pm:

As a firm believer in felt seals for the engine, I left mine in place when I installed the TW. The original tin shield is also in place. I've done a couple thousand km with the TW and it's working perfectly.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Monday, October 20, 2014 - 07:30 am:

Randy,

If the felt seal is good leave it alone. Ditto the brass plate.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Randy Glowacki on Monday, October 20, 2014 - 12:29 pm:

Thank you for all the advice. I will be leaving the felt seal and brass plate in place.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Monday, October 20, 2014 - 01:43 pm:

Randy,

Just be sure that the outer diameter of the brass plate has not been worn down such that it can fall inside the timer. That can cause shorts and all kinds of trouble.

Ideally, the diameter of the brass plate fits nicely in the recess where the timer body rides. The timer body then sits on top of the brass plate, holding it in place. However, over time and use, the edge of the timer body wears away the perimeter of the brass plate, reducing its diameter until it can fall inside the timer housing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Todd on Tuesday, October 21, 2014 - 10:36 am:

I bought a repro brass plate from one of the reputable vendors a few years ago and it must have been copied from a worn down one because it just fell inside the timer. Vendor said, that's the way they are. It's still sitting on a shelf somewhere in the shop.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Tuesday, October 21, 2014 - 11:15 am:

I've seen that comment about the repo brass plates before. What would be so hard about getting a front cover and making the plates to fit? Making it right should be no harder than making it wrong. Unbelievable.


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