I have a couple of 1906-1907 articles that appeared in German publications I'd like to have a general interpretation of.
Is anyone interested? If you'd like to PM with your email I will send them in pdf form. It's only about three pages, with short articles concerning Ford.
Mein Deutsch ist nicht sehr gut.
Use Google translate - works well.
I am not able to transfer these documents into a readable format for Google translate (that I'm aware of). They are jpeg's, and I am able to convert to PDF.
I haven't done it in awhile, but there are free OCR (optical character readers) out there that will convert to text form. If you have a scanner or a multi function printer with a scanner, you may already have an OCR program on your machine.
Maybe Jens Metzner can help you.
sometimes he is on the forum but I will try to contact him.
Thank you Andre,
I'm attempting to find something that probably doesn't exist. The following article covers two Model K sent to Germany sometime before July 7, 1906. The article also says "Thirty of these machines have met the German-made car on its own ground so far,"
While I don't believe there is much chance 30 Model K, or anywhere near that quantity "met the German-made car on it's own ground," I am curious as to what they are referring to?
I began searching 1906-07 Ford Motor Wagen's (and variations) and came up with a few articles. However, I believe the articles only give basic specs about the cars. Below is how a Google translation reads after using an app (Textgrabber) to transfer (OCR) to the translator. It's helpful, but a lot of words are not translated:
Excerpt of German magazine article:
Ideally I would like to find articles about Ford owners in Germany or elsewhere in Europe, but that may not be possible.
Rob, I'll send you a PM. There is a German in my department at work who may be interested in translating these.
Thank you, I'll send a file.
I should have brought this up earlier, do you have any places to check for additional photos or information about the January 1908 Brussels Auto Show? There is a large touring car under the Ford sign, and I assume it is a Model K. It would be interesting to find out more about the Ford agent that had the booth, and any other info.
I will try to contact the Auto World museum in Brussels. Maybe they can help.
Rob, speaking as a Life Member of the American Translators Association who has put bread on the table for 22 years translating, a quick side note: "interpreting" is the oral conversion of one language to another and "translating" is doing it in writing. (Despite their similarity, they are two completely different skills - a translator has as much time as he wants to find the correct word, an interpreter has about half a second... )
My son could probably translate it if he felt like it. He is a sophomore in Madison and has other things on his mind. I will ask him to look at it and see if he can help you out.
Part of the problem is that google and any other translator has a hard time with the longer words. Germans love to combine words to make a longer word, but it only makes sense if you are German.
There is a German on the forum. Perhaps he will see this post and help you out. His English is pretty good.
This is Dave's son, the excerpt you gave is part of a technical journal, so it is mostly about how the car works.
edited by Professor M. Rudeloff, a lecturer at the technical college of Berlin-Charlottenburg
The heat engines of the anniversary (or possibly festive time around christmas) land exhibition in Nurnberg
by Dr. H Mouth, Karlsruhe
There is a transmission shaft to bevel gear wheels. (gate shifting) The hand brake works on the back wheels.
One replacing the "argus motor company" fixed argus chassis shows an oddly operated air pump. It is indirectly propelled by the control shaft of the exhaust valve, which it accomplishes by being attached to the exhaust valve shaft. The pump pumps pressure in the low-lying gas tank.
The car has a multi-plate clutch.
The frame is a pressed steel frame, the water circulation of the motor is powered through a gear pump. The transmission works with direct influence over the high speeds, it is built with planetary gears. The speed shifts take place through a hand lever placed to the side of the driver's seat. Affixed next to this lever and near the six cylinder is the lever that operates the brakes on the rear wheels. The four cylinder possesses a third pedal instead of this lever that is secured in the brake position.
If I understand correctly, the article in blue talks about the Model N?, a four cylinder car with 15 horsepower for 3600 Marks ($1000 about)
and the 40 horse six cylinder car for 14,500 Marks ($4000).
It goes on to talk about the quiet ride and good handling. Then something about how you feel after a long ride.
My German is very rusty, too.
Thanks guys (I'll try to choose my words better Dick ). The articles I'm attempting to "decipher" are on this link:
They probably contain just technical information. I'm really looking for information regarding Ford Model K sales abroad, particularly sales in Germany or mainland Europe. The "Automobile Topics" article above seems to imply that 30 Model K have already "met" German cars (in Germany?).
It doesn't seem that such a large number of Model K would have been shipped to Germany, and at such an early point in the K production period, going unnoticed by the media.
However, we did find 12 Model B serving as taxis in London a year earlier that were not documented anywhere except through a magazine article, so who knows.....
Hi Rob !
Just came to reading the topic today. I am one of the Germans here - feel free to send the PDF files to me and i try to do my best (especially concerning time). If you have a preference which one to be translated first just tell me.
Jeorg, I sent a PM, Dankeschön.
Guten Morgen Joerg
Dick, if your still with this, one for you:
Ford, Pope-Toledo, Pierce and Cadillac are listed. It looks as though they may be mentioning the Ford N (viercylinders van 15 hp?):
second half of the page:
Your post above states you need German. The above article is in Dutch. You need to make another posting for the Dutch!
Try to stay on topic please. LOL
Dave, I know! I thought Dick Lodge might be back and cover it. I don't think it to earth shattering, and it might be saying something about the Fords in Germany?
The Dutch article from "de Kampioen" only mentions that 4 American companies are trying to enter the European market.
At the Leipziger Messe, a car exhibition in Germany, American 4 cilinder cars, 15 hp, two-seaters complete with top, lamps and tools for 3600 DM were shown.
The author is very critical and wonders if the quality of American cars will appeal in Europe.
Thank you for the translation. I'm impressed with Ford's aggressiveness. Only three and a half years into FMC's history they are marketing (or attempting) around the world.
This doesn't necessarily fit this thread, but it shows how soon, and far, Fords travelled. A Ford Model A is decorated and in a victory parade at Osaka, Japan sometime before the photo and article are published August 3, 1905:
Rob when you get your translations back could you post the articles?
Yes, I'll post them on this thread. Also, a Model T friend in Deutschland is looking in a few other places, so who knows?
Hello I'm Jens from close to Leipzig, Germany.
I can conform the translation from Dave's son It is very well done, mine would have been worse. I do not follow the threads regularly, but if you need some help in this regard just keep posting although I'm pretty busy at the moment. The articles are not from yesterday.
Andre will watch me ;-) that I'll keep an eye on the forum.
More at this link. One article I saw said the two Model K sent to Germany in July 1906 went to Liepzig, although other versions like the one posted to this thread said "Berlin."
Thank you for the help and interest,
Rob, I am in New York right now and don't have a printer attached to my laptop. (It's easier to translate from a hard copy than the screen). Hans has already given you an idea about it. I will look at it again when I get home. I did note that a bicycle pump was lost between Egmond aan Zee and Alkmaar. I drove that road a lot when I stayed with Anja's parents in Heiloo. If I had known about the pump, I'd have looked more closely....
P.S. Dave, Rob introduced the Dutch article by saying, "Dick, if your still with this, one for you..." I gather he knew it was Dutch.
Yes Dick, I recalled your familiarity with the language (mind like a steel trap). Now, where did I leave my cup of coffee?
Thanks, and enjoy your trip,