OT - Perambulator Tires

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: OT - Perambulator Tires
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Miller, Mostly in Dearborn on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 10:31 am:

My daughter purchased an antique wicker perambulator (baby buggy) and sent me photos since she lives in another state.

She mentioned the solid or semi pneumatic tires on her wire wheels are going to need new rubber. Is anyone aware of someone who does this for smaller diameter wheels?

The other thing I noticed is that she needs wing nuts for the hood as someone replaced them with newer versions. This is a photo I swiped off the web and not her pram. Does anyone know of a source for large diameter nickel plated wing nuts? Thread size looks to be 3/8" or possibly 5/16".


Thanks for any leads.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 10:43 am:

Some jogging strollers have pneumatics. She may get lucky on size.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 11:19 am:

Somebody makes the tires. I've seen them on restored pedal cars. Whether they make the right size for this pram is another question. I expect a Google search will turn up a source.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 12:17 pm:

There is a Perambulator Museum in Jefferson Ohio. Perhaps they can assist you in locating a supply source for tires and wing nuts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 01:04 pm:

I investigated this not too long ago because I want to replace the hard rubber tires on my dad's 1930s coaster wagon (they have flat spots from sitting too long).

Plain/smooth and rope style (looks kind of like Twizzler licorice) hard rubber tire can be purchased and cut to desired lengths. It was used on pedal cars, coaster wagons, tricycles, baby buggies, etc.

However, it's hard to find someone who has the machine to properly install it with the internal wire. Island Cycle in Minneapolis had the machine and used to install hard rubber tires with the internal wire - there was a lot of demand for re-tiring wheel chairs. They also put tires on high wheel bikes around town, including my dad's.

Most folks just glue it on the rim. In the case of your baby buggy, that will probably suffice.

Doing it yourself, wire style:

http://racycle.blogspot.com/2010/02/re-tiring-procedure-for-ordinary.html

http://www.bikeroute.com/HiWheelers/HowMountTire.php

http://www.hiwheel.com/tire_install.htm

source for smooth solid rubber tire - sold by the foot:

http://www.hiwheel.com/parts/index.htm

There are other sources that cater to the antique pedal car and coaster wagon crowd for smooth and rope style tire but I can't locate them at the moment. I have it bookmarked somewhere. If I can them it I'll post it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 01:55 pm:

Here we go, one source for 1/2" diameter and 3/4" diameter rope tire. Can be used with a wire but as mentioned earlier, many folks just glue it to the rim.

http://www.tricyclefetish.com/tricycle-parts-tires-c-59_67.html?osCsid=06f5a4b89 c7a7fe02f30ea95e76d95ef


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 05:26 pm:

Single piece 6 inch, 7.5 inch and 8 inch tires can be purchased here:

http://www.pedalcar.com/pedal-parts/6-5-round-rubber-tire/

http://www.pedalcar.com/pedal-parts/chrysler-steelcraft-murray-1940-1950/round-r ubber-tire-roll-on-7-1-2/

http://www.pedalcar.com/pedal-parts/chrysler-steelcraft-murray-1940-1950/tire-fl at-tread-7-5/

http://www.pedalcar.com/pedal-parts/508-519-amf-firetruck-1962-1978/tire-flat-tr ead-6-5/

http://www.pedalcar.com/8-round-cross-section-tire/


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 06:01 pm:

Should have typed 6.5 inch, not 6.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brass car guy on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 07:08 pm:

Witmers in New Holland PA has the rubber by the foot. Comes in white and black. They are an Amish buggy parts and restorers supply. They are actually have a phone and electric lights because they are Menonites. Great folks to deal with they can sell you the rubber or send the wheels to them for a retire.

just sayin'

brasscarguy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John A Voss on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 07:30 pm:

i'll 2nd " brass car guy " --
Witmer is to the buggy trade as Langs is to the model " T " trade
nice people -- i've been working with them for 40 years
with carriage wheels & parts --

Witmer coach
New holland , PA 17557

717-656-3411


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 08:03 pm:

My dad usually has a Witmer's catalog on hand and has purchased oval iron from them in the past. I'll have to take a look. I wasn't aware that they sold small diameter hard rubber tire for baby buggies and the like, just the larger stuff for horse drawn carriages, etc.

My dad had two sets of wheels re-tired for two 1900 Waverley Electric's by Calimer's. Same principal except there are two wires in the rubber instead of one.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Miller, Mostly in Dearborn on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 08:11 pm:

Thanks everyone. Talk about perfect days, I just got home with my four round felloe wheels from Noah Stutzman and am now sharing your comments via the phone with my daughter.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Morsher on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 08:36 pm:

I was at Stutzmans today, Tom. I always have trouble finding him, but that is half the fun, getting lost in Amish country.

I have a good supply of original old wing nuts . Write to me when you figure out the size, and I'll see if I can gather a pair for you. Best, tim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Miller, Mostly in Dearborn on Saturday, October 25, 2014 - 09:19 pm:

Tim, I drove through your town around five but Sue told me not to come home too late for dinner. You crossed my. Mind as I crossed the Main Street encounter to the pike.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tom Miller, Mostly in Dearborn on Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 10:57 am:

So much for using my wife's computer that had a fruit on it. Give me a proper keyboard. I meant:

Tim, I drove through your town around five but Sue told me not to come home too late for dinner. You crossed my mind as I crossed the main street en route to the pike.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Morsher on Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 12:28 pm:

We must have just missed you. That would have been neat to see you there. Next time take the wifey and spend the night down there. I can give you recommendations for some nice places. I think there are more ford tools for sale in the area antique shops than anywhere I've ever been. Keep in touch.


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