John Brown Model 110 sidelights

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: John Brown Model 110 sidelights
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Scholz on Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 01:28 pm:

I have a pair (?) of these sidelights, and even though they are the the same model, they are not identical.

The differences lie in brass vs steel components. The 2 square window frames, and the chimney top on one is made of brass, while being made of steel on the other. (both oil tanks have their top sections made of brass)

Could it be that they were made in different years?

My only concern is that I am looking to polish the brass, and if i do so I end up with an uneven appearance. Anyone know where I can trade out the all steel unit for a brass (as stated above) one? I'm willing to pay value difference, plus postage. Thanks for your help. George


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 03:26 pm:

George,

Those Brown 110 lamps were used from 1913 - 1914, over a period of 2 1/2 years since the 1914 model year went through February 1915 for some body styles.

The Brown 110 lamps evolved over that time. The last Model 110 lamps were nearly all steel, and had the lamp mounting bracket integral with the lamp. Ford was trying to eliminate brass trim to lower cost of making the cars. That meant suppliers like Brown eliminated brass to lower the cost of lamps. Bottom line, if both lamps don't have the rear jewel they were made in the same model year, 1914.

Obviously your car will look better with two that match one another.
Here's a 1913 Model 110 side lamp with the jewel in the back (arrow)


Here is a mid - 1914 model year lamp on my '14 with steel glass frames and no jewel on the back.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Scholz on Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 08:24 pm:

Royce, I must check mine out, as I'm thinking that they both have a jewel in the back. Thanks for the info. George


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Elliott on Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 08:58 pm:

The Browns on my '14 have the jewel but the only brass is the top half of the font and the chimney tops.


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