Handbrake linings for the Improved Ford

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Handbrake linings for the Improved Ford
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JohnH on Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 09:23 pm:

It's time to reline the rear brake shoes on my 26.
However, I'm curious why there seem to be two kinds of rivet in use. The original linings on my car are woven with brass wire, and secured with what appear to be transmission band rivets.
shoes1

I also have another set of shoes which have a different kind of rivet made of steel and which would require special tools to install:
shoes2

New replacement linings seem to be of this type.
It was a low mileage car when I got it, so I have no reason not to think the brass woven material and transmission band rivets aren't original. All the later ones seem to have the asbestos like material and steel rivets. Was there perhaps a change in production? Is one better than the other? This is one of the very early 1926 models.

(Message edited by 26tourer on October 26, 2014)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Zibell on Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 10:26 pm:

I can't tell you what is original, but the new linings from this vendor use brass rivets. http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/220 Just be careful when countersinking the lining as it is easy to go too far. Also with the special tools shown installation is a snap. Installation is with the head of the rivet to the inside, and the tube to the outside. With the lining countersunk, the expanded part of the tube rivet is below the level of the lining.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 10:29 pm:

Steel rivets should not be used on brake linings. On my linings I used brass split rivets. Recently I pulled the rear hub after an accident, linings, drums, and rivets were in good shape. I had misgivings about using split rivets, but after 10 years and many miles I think they are fine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 10:56 pm:

Tubular rivets I have seen installed had the lining countersunk for the head of the rivet with the tubular end riveted inside the metal shoe.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By JohnH on Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 11:46 pm:

Thanks for the info so far.
I should perhaps explain that it was the steel riveted linings that I've been using for the last 11 years. The originals were rather oily and wouldn't hold the car, so someone gave me the steel riveted ones in the 2nd pic. They worked great until now when the right side started squeaking (I use them as the service brake). After taking the wheel off, I saw that the lining was down to the rivets as seen in the pic, and the drum is a little scored also.

I've ordered the new linings and rivet tool. No idea what the new lining is made of but only one way to find out if it stands up to continuous use.


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