NH knock off?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: NH knock off?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Shirley on Tuesday, October 28, 2014 - 11:52 pm:

Came on a car I'm the custodian of the brass plate says; MOCHI and below it has INDUSTRIA ARGENTINA. I don't think its a NH rebuild, the casting doesn't look old enough. anyone know about it?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Richmond, Texas on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 01:09 am:

Bob, the carburetor made by Industria Argentina is undoubtedly a replacement carburetor, probably sold in the seventies. In the mid seventies, I was employed by Tommy Traylor's Specialized Auto Parts in Houston. With a shortage of US made reproduction parts for T's, Tommy heavily imported parts made by Industria Argentina. They were the major source of T replacement parts, by far, with a smattering made in Taiwan and the US.

Looking back at a 1974 Specialized catalog, the I.A. NH knockoff carb is not shown, but I know we sold them. Other I.A. T parts and their retail prices in 1974, were: 30X3.5 smooth bead tires, $33.50. Someone may have been making a clincher 30X3.5, but we sold the cheaper 3X3.5 smooth beaded tire because they were so much cheaper to buy wholesale, even with shipping from Argentina. Other I.A. parts were: rear wheel bearings with sleeve, $12.95 (bearing and sleeve); U joints $16.95; spindle bolt set with bushings, $6.95; exhaust manifolds $21.95; Front spring perches for below axle wishbone $8.95; Complete engine gasket set with copper head gasket $9.95. Driveshaft $19.95.

Other parts and their prices were: standard ratio ring and pinion $32.50; 3 to 1 ratio $69.95; 26-27 wire wheel hubcaps $19.95 (set of five); Lug nut set for wire wheels with spare lock nut, $21.95. Exhaust pipe (made in India) $4.95; KW wooden coils $12.95 each; Rebuilt starters $23.95 exchange; Champion A-25 plugs $1.10 each; Reproduction Aermore exhaust whistle (with cutout, gasket and clamps $29.95. 21" tires with zigzag tread like the old Sears tires $23.95 black, $28.95 white wall.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Andrew Benoit on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 02:10 am:

Industria Argentina just means Made in Argentina.

I think Mochi would be the company name.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Richmond, Texas on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 11:25 am:

Thanks for clarifying Industria Argentina. In all the years since, I never knew that, since I didn't work in the purchasing department. I just knew that was stamped on everything from Argentina and no other manufacturers name was stamped or cast into the imported parts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Huson, Berthoud, Co. on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 11:34 am:

I don't remember ever buying any new parts for Ts in the 70s that did not come from Argentina. Eventually in the late 70s or early 80s. Most of the new parts came from Taiwan.

carbs


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Saylor, Citrus Heights, Ca on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 11:47 am:

I have a distributor that I bought in 1969 with the Industria Argentina on it. I paid $25 for it new. Still running today. very good quality. Points, rotor, cap the same as mid 50's Autolite for Jeep.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Anthony J Marino on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 12:12 pm:

Terry, thanks for the trip back in time. I used to buy parts at Specialized Auto until they closed and remember cussing a lot about those parts made in Argentina.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Shirley on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 02:13 pm:

Thanks, replaced the needle with a neoprene tipped and stopped the over night leak. But still doesn't idle well. Think I'll try a NH.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 04:18 pm:

I find that the L4 idles very smoothly. If you try the NH you might find the same rough idle. Rough idle is usually caused by one of 5 things. 1. Richness mixture too lean or too rich.
2. Leak at intake manifold to engine or to carburetor allowing air to be drawn in. This will not usually affect the higher speed, but the idle yes.
3. Clogged idle passage in carburetor.
4. One or more bad coils, or sparkplug. Timer not making good contact, or off center. Or if using distributor, point gap or cap problem. (I label these as ignition problems)
5. Burnt or sticking valve causing compression low in one or more cylinders.

Anyway, from personal experience, I had a rough idling engine and after I rebuilt the engine, it is the smoothest running T of my fleet of 3. I used the same NH carburetor on it, but had previously used L4. Not only does it idle smoother, but it starts up almost instantly when cold or hot. I used to have problems starting that car before the rebuild.

Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steven Thum on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 04:25 pm:

Bob
I have a Moochi carb like yours, I needed to clear the jet of the scrap metal that was left in it. I also had to install a NH spray needle and inlet needle and now it is one of my most reliable carbs. I use it strictly for testing on engines that do not run correctly and will never sell it.

Steven


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