Front of a Ford -Clear Photo of details

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 10:07 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Canino on Wednesday, October 29, 2014 - 10:11 pm:

Look at the bulge in that tire... oh my


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 07:38 am:

Neat picture of a 1912 T. The profile of the spindly early wheels is well displayed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Herb Iffrig on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 11:20 am:

It would seem that the car has had some use. The front fender has a crack in it.
I don't recall seeing a horn with that type of screen clamped on it, the way that one is.
E&J side lamps with another type of headlight. Was that common or is that a replacement for one or the other?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Fischer on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 11:52 am:

Is it just an optical illusion, or is that windshield brace rod bent ? Also, it appears that the front glass is missing from the side lamp.

Dick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Walter Higgins on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 12:43 pm:

That headlamp is a 2nd style Jno. Brown no. 19, correct for 1912.

I am a believer that headlamps, cowl lamps, and tail lamps can be of mixed manufacture on the same car, so nothing unusual there.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 01:37 pm:

Yes, very clear detail. Nice photo.
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 06:02 pm:

Walt, what is the first style of Jno Brown no. 19? what is the difference? I thought it was how the chimney was not fixed at the front and the rounder more domed style headlight rims? What is different from the rear?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Walter Higgins on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 06:25 pm:

David,

The differences I have noted are as follows:

Hinges / latches: 1st style is hinged on the lamps proper left, 2nd style on the right. Of course, opposite with the latches. Here you can see the two rivet latch on the left and is what tipped me off.

Headlight rims: as you stated, 1st style have a convex front and 2nd style have a concave front. Also, the convex rims have a double bead on the periphery and the concave a single bead. The photo above looks like a single bead.

Back of light: 1st style has three screws that hold the reflector retainer wedges. Some 2nd style used a soldered retainer and there are no screws (can't be seen here). I have also seen 2nd style with wedges and screws.

There are probably other differences, but I've never had both in my hands at the same time for a good comparison. I can post photos if it's of interest.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By george house on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 07:04 pm:

Back to the E&J cowl lamps: I have 2 styles of the Pat'd DEC 9 1908 and am wondering about the correct dates where they'd be used. One has the circular part brass below the square body and the other has this in steel. The brass includes the two latching levers. Of course, the chimney top and font upper is brass on both too. Then theres the Model 32 for '14 which I don't have because I don't care for them. Any ideas? . . . Royce? . . .


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John H. Nichols on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 08:46 pm:

Could that be a Viet Nam made tire with bulge built in ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 09:38 pm:

Likely a 12 car but picture taken later, maybe around 1920?
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 11:39 pm:

I don't know when it was taken? But that T is really beat up! The fender is a real mess. That side lamp isn't any better. The headlamp and horn show damage also. At least the radiator isn't knocked in on the side like one I have is. One must wonder what happened to it.
Great photo!
Thanks all.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Chantrell - Adelaide, Australia on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 02:03 am:

Thank Walt, learn something new with Model 'T's every day! I did not know about the catch. Thanks for sharing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 06:18 am:

The cowl lamp is typical of 1912. It is an all brass E&J. By summer of 1912 all lamps would have steel bodies with black trim.


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