OT - Dean, I asked you to just gap the plugs.....

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: OT - Dean, I asked you to just gap the plugs.....
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 10:33 pm:

:-)



(I think he's got this down to a science)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean Yoder on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 11:09 pm:

OOOps I got carried away!

P.S. Rob trained me this spring.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 05:18 am:

Rob,

Thanks for posting the update. Please continue to post lots of photos as most of us have never seen those kind of details on a Model K before.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Partington on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 06:22 am:

That's how I generally see Bob Trevans Model K, are all K owners obsessed with pulling them apart? Just jealousy rearing its ugly head as I only pull Model T's apart but I do generally get them back together


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 06:49 am:

Doug, it has the original cast iron pistons, and we know from the history of this car it had over 100,000 miles on it early in it's life. Time for a little relief (aluminum pistons).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 06:52 am:

Perhaps Dean was laying under the car when he looked up and saw the plugs on top and came up through the bottom of the engine to get to them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 06:54 am:

That's one huge bearing on the front!!Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By G.R.Cheshire on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 07:11 am:

Doug: I don't think it has to do with K's or T's it seems to be an old Ford owner thing... we just have to see the insides:-) of course once you have done it the first time the fear goes away!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Eric Hylen- Central Minnesota on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 07:33 am:

Rob,
100,000 miles! There's your reliability tour, right there.

Does it still have its original magneto? It would be interesting to know if that unique design held up well for the long haul.

Are the motor mounts broken and repaired, or is this more evidence that they weren't junk?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 08:12 am:

Denny,
How do you think up the things you say, er, write? :-)

Bud, it's one long crankshaft. The good news, with seven mains it's supported nicely.

Eric, yes, it had over 100,000 miles on before the "first" restoration, sometime long long ago. That was reported by the son (and third owner) of the original owner. We'll do another thread on the history of the car. There was a K in Oklahoma that had a reported 220,000 miles on by the early 1920's. it was still running as of 1940.

It does not have the original mag. Currently it has a Bosch DR6.

The side of the crankcase has been repaired (rod?), but I don't believe the motor mounts (arms) have been broken (Dean will know, now that he has a layer of crud removed from the engine) although they frequently were (as they usually were on NRS Fords).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 08:14 am:

I meant to say usually the transmission frames are broken, often beyond repair, on NRS Fords.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 10:20 am:

Rob,Because of the early repair Would a check for need of line boring? Check crank straight and balance? Maybe a sealed bearing? Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Bohlen, Severn MD on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 10:22 am:

Rob,

I think I found a photo of Dean doing his thing....



Or is this the next project?

:-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Woolf on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 04:59 pm:

Rob,

Are those the radiator mounts sticking off of the front cross member?

Dan


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 06:26 pm:

Dan,
Yes. An interesting arrangement.

Larry,
Some similarities with the long hood. Fortunately not as big a project. Unfortunately, it won't fly.
:-)

I liked the music, and used it at the beginning of this video of K pics:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8p93qx5yo0xj3k6/Video%20Mar%2026%2C%208%2002%2004%20AM.mov?dl=0


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 08:22 pm:

I think we're going to run it like the New York to Seattle car for a while (no fenders). Looks like a dirt track racer now.
Thanks Dean.




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Carl Sorenson-Lake Arrowhead,CA on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 09:11 pm:

Ain't that just like them young kids,,,,Just get sumpthin' nice ,,and they gotta tear it apart Ta see how it ticks.....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 10:27 pm:

Boy do i feel dumb,i thought in the first picture the pully was a large ball bearing!! Was the model K the first Ford to have a fan belt? A semi modern V belt at that.What did your first K have Rob?? Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dean Yoder on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 11:19 pm:

K's have two v belts one runs the fan the other runs the oiler.
P.S. Just blame the photographer Light in my shop isn't the best for photography.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 11:27 pm:

Thank"s Dean!! Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Partington on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 12:16 am:

Rob, Did you know that the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang in the movie is a Ford? Not well known that the drivable one was built by Alan Mann Racing in the UK. AMR ran factory Ford GT40's all over Europe & got the job to build Chitty for the movie. It was buit on a Ford GB D200 truck chassis with the Canadian 300cid 6 cylinder engine. One of the AMR team managers came to Australia to manage Ford Australia's racing program, he was Howard Marsdon who then made his home here. Sadly he passed away a couple of years back, lovely bloke.Howard related the story of Chitty to me and also told me how they finally got 5 thousand pounds for the last complete GT40 by including a spare tub in the deal.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 04:10 am:

Doug,
Thank you for the info on the film car. As a boy I saw the movie, and I think it reinforced my desire to have an antique car.

A little research just now revealed the movie was a takeoff on the book by Ian Flemming. Who would have thought the author was the creator of Bond, James Bond?

A little more reading indicated the car Fleming used as the basis for "Chitty" really did exist. Even more surprising, the car may have actually have flown after all. (Well, it was made using a surplus WW1 aviation engine, so a part of the car may have flown)

An excerpt from"The tale of Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang"
by Kate Grimond 17 December 2011:

" Usually described as a monster or leviathan, Chitty 1, the dedicatee, was a massive, five-ton, grey, gleaming, noisy car, with a pre-1914 war, chain-drive, 75 horsepower Mercedes chassis in which was installed a six-cylinder 300 horsepower Maybach aeroplane engine and which had a top speed of 135 mph and almost no braking power."



This has me motivated, I better work the story of this Model K. While not as exciting as an Ian Flemming novel, we know the history all the way back to the original owner, and probably the Ford dealer who sold it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Partington on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 07:14 am:

Count Louis Zborowski either built or funded the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang racing cars that raced at Brooklands just after WW1. They were powered by Benz aero engines. The book "Brooklands Giants" details Zborowski cars and bravery. The fastest lap noted in the book is a lap speed by the Count at 108 MPH. A wonderful book by historian Bill Boddy. Suggested reading for motoring history buffs almost as good as my book.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 07:41 am:

Doug, great the background info on the Count and racer.

I forgot about your affinity for fast, sporty red racers.

:-)

Great book too, thank you:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gilbert V. I. Fitzhugh on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 08:41 am:

I, too, was surprised, several years ago, to learn that Ian Fleming had written both Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang and the James Bond books. On the other hand, maybe the difference between Truly Scrumptious and Pussy Galore is mostly a matter of attitude.


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