Rebuilt carb for '26 T

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: Rebuilt carb for '26 T
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dennis delano on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 10:58 pm:

Hello all, Anyone know where I would be able to get a rebuilt carb for my '26 touring car? I have tried Langs 3 times, they are always on backorder, Snyder's is a little more expensive, but they require me to send in the core before they send out the rebuilt and I don't want to remove this one until I get the new one, and Mac's is way out of line with their pricing for most items, even though I am only 20 minutes away from them! any ideas?
Den


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Canino on Thursday, October 30, 2014 - 11:11 pm:

Dennis,
I love your personal quote on your profile page..... so true


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 12:32 am:

Try carbking @soltec.net


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Zibell on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 10:31 am:

Have you considered just rebuilding it yourself? The NH carb is pretty simple to do. Having a copy of the manual https://www.modeltford.com/item/RM2.aspx makes it pretty easy.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 10:40 am:

Not only is it fairly easy to do it yourself, you save a bundle. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 11:04 am:

Den
The Holly NH is a very simple carburetor and you can rebuild it yourself with parts from Model T parts suppliers, but, once again, it can be a trap for logical people. Be sure each of these orifices is opened and cleaned out for a quality job. Unseen crud can spoil your other good work resulting in a disappointing outcome.
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You can also send it to Stan Howe 406-949-3448 stanhowemt@aol.com.
Good luck
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 12:36 pm:

You can buy this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-T-Holley-NH-Side-Drain-Carburetor-/161464480955?pt =Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item25980874bb&vxp=mtr#ht_63wt_1362 and then rebuild yours later. Or, if that one isn't rebuilt and doesn't work you could rebuild it, and then rebuild yours. Just a thought.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dennis delano on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 01:32 pm:

Thank's for the response guys, I did a minor clean and rebuild a few years ago but some of the parts seem kind of worn and loose so I thought I'd replace it and the one from Lang's looked so pretty that I thought I'd give myself a present, but I tried to order it 3 times to no avail, it is always on back order! I thought about buying the rebuild kit, but the one I came across was over 60 bucks plus shipping and for the extra 60 some odd dollars that it would cost for a rebuilt one, would much rather have done that. I was going to take a ride to mac's and just pick one up but the new ones are expensive and they wanted almost 200 bucks for a rebuilt, for that kind of money, i'll just take this one apart and clean it real good, like I said,I did it once before, but got the itch for that "pretty little thing" when I saw it and the car has been a little difficult to start when cold without the starter. The one on ebay is not like mine, I have a center drain with the swivel on top, but I'll check the other places out! thank's again for the ideas! @Frank, If you knew my story, you would see that the quote is very appropriate for me!!!!LOL (google my name!)LOL


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 01:56 pm:

Obviously I haven't seen your carburetor, but I would guess you probably don't need everything in that $60 kit. For example, if it includes a spray needle you probably don't need one. I'd use the MTFCA book, clean out those passages as Ron suggests, and buy only what's needed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Robison on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 02:30 pm:

Dennis, if you've ever priced out individual parts for an NH carb you will quickly find they aren't the cheapest carb to rebuild considering how simple they are. When you buy an bare casting at a swap meet for $5 you can easily put $90 worth of parts just to get it going, not including your time which in some cases isn't free. If you'd like a rebuilt NH carb Ford-N-More will sell you one for $150 outright. 800-327-1469


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 03:47 pm:

Mike's right. Everybody in the business gets paid for what they do. AND most of us pay the same exact price for parts the non-business customers do. It's hard to charge anything extra for parts when the look in the catalog and tell you what they could have bought it for.

I just bought another $38 1/4 + .001 = .251 reamer for the throttle shaft holes and just ordered another $100 worth of .250 Silicon Bronze shafting to make throttle shafts out of. It is like any other business. There are costs involved.

I just sold a metal lathe that I would have liked to keep but I have so many tools in my shop now I had no place to put it and I need a new bead blast cabinet worse than I needed a 4th lathe.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ron Patterson-Nicholasville, Kentucky on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 03:58 pm:

Den
If the casting bores for the throttle and choke shafts are badly worn it will ultimately result in poor performance after rebuilding. But, these can be re-bushed and this is best left to one of the rebuilding experts.
Ron the Coilman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Constantine on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 04:22 pm:

I'm sure Stan does a great job at a fair price.

My carb was done by Russ Potter...is he still in business?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ronald Bolser on Friday, October 31, 2014 - 05:14 pm:

Russ Potter is still rebuilding carbs.
Just had dinner with him Wednesday night and was on a tour with him two weeks ago.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dennis delano on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 12:07 am:

Hi gang, I will check out all the options, I just thought that the price for the rebuilt at Lang's was a fair one and would save me some trouble, but am now thinking that maybe, i'll just tear this one down and clean it up real good, to be honest, I don't remember messing with those passages that Ron mentions so I'll get the book and play it by ear. I am not opposed to anyone making a profit on their work and if most of the rebuilds that I had checked out cost 200 or more on average, I would be fine with that, but what I am opposed to is being taken advantage of, which is why I ask a lot of questions and do some research before making a decision. take for instance, If Lang's was able to supply the rebuilt carb for me and I ordered it, with the core charge and shipping, it would cost me $194.95 total to my door, of which I would get 75.00 back when I sent in my core. Then, if I order the same rebuilt carb at Mac's, which is in my backyard (actually about 20 to 30 minutes away), it would cost me $350.80 with core charge, shipping, and tax!!!!! (of course,I would not have it shipped, but I am using it for comparison purposes) and I would get 100.00 back when I sent my core in! So, all things being equal, it could cost me $155.85 more for getting it in my own backyard, than by ordering it from Lang's! Bottom line is that either the guy doing the work at one place is really good at what he does, or they are over charging for the product and services,shipping etc, (unless maybe they are using more expensive parts or something, I don't know because I can only go by what I see in the numbers, and try to save a dime whenever possible!)
Den


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ronald Bolser on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 09:54 am:

Lang's carbs are supplied by Russ Potter.
Don't know where Mac's gets theirs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ronald Bolser on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 09:57 am:

Russ Potter is the supplier of carbs for Langs.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bud Holzschuh - Panama City, FL on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 10:08 am:

Why not call Stan ? He's one of us and by all reports does excellent work.

BTW, it's a good idea to have a spare carb, just for situations such as this.

(Message edited by schuh on November 01, 2014)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Canino on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 10:18 am:

Dennis, sent you a PM


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 10:51 am:

Bob Bergstadt has great choke and throttle shafts. Can't tell them from the originals.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Tomaso - Milton,WA on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 11:13 am:

Is there a problem with yours ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By dennis delano on Saturday, November 01, 2014 - 04:53 pm:

Steve, I am not sure if there is a problem with mine or not but it just looks like it's in need of a little "TLC" to me and I saw that "pretty" rebuilt and thought for the price I would treat myself to it but the planets didn't line up right!LOL Truth is that since i chewed up some teeth on the ring gear, I will be using the hand crank to start with if there are any more driving days left before the snow flies here and I wanted to "optimize" my chances for a quick start with the handcrank because I am getting older and beginning to "feel" it! Right now, she has been a little difficult to start with the crank when cold,(6 to 8 pulls) but after the first start of the day when she is warm, she seems to start pretty good for the rest of the day although she does seem to run just a hair rough once in awhile( 1 to 2 pulls, and I even get some free starts in between sometimes!!!) I recently sprung for Champion X plugs and was thinking that I would make sure the carb was in good shape before moving on to the timer (which I replaced a few years ago). I had the coils rebuilt by Ron Patterson a few years ago and they still look brand new so I won't mess with them. I guess I'm just "puttering" around trying to get her to start a little easier and for the price would have liked to swap the carb, I don't think it is "needed" so much as "wanted" that's why I put the feelers out and have received some great options to check out! ( I should spend the money on side curtains, but haven't got the courage to tell the wife what they cost yet!!LOL)Thank's
den


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Robinson Salty Bottom, AL on Tuesday, November 04, 2014 - 07:13 pm:

Ron- the internal passages of the NH- do they run like the image below? The unseen portions of the wires has me curious as to which passage goes where.

NH


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Tuesday, November 04, 2014 - 08:45 pm:

There are/were a couple on ebay buy it now for around 135 or best offer. If you submit a best offer I would subtract the cost of a needle valve and it's postage to replace the gross jet that are installed when they rebuild them.


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