I was on my way to eastern Iowa to pick up the jugs (cylinders) for our Model K. Later this week I was running them to Tulsa for boring and new pistons/valves.
However, about 4 a.m. I decided to go deer hunting. I should say a deer decided to go Prius hunting:
The car immediately went dark, the brakes locked up, and I was stopped in the traffic lane on I-80. I thought a truck would run right up my.......... Fortunately the next semi saw me, went around and then stopped. The truck driver (I later learned) a Rumanian immigrant, and he pulled a chain off his truck, and we found a place to hook on (not easy on a disabled Prius with only a few inches of clearance) and drug the car to the shoulder.
A Sarpy (outside Omaha) County Deputy arrived, helped me recover some stuff from the car, and we waited for a tow truck. Meanwhile, a Nebraska State Patrolman stopped, and offered me a ride closer to Lincoln. Now I'm at a convenience store waiting for a ride back home (about 40 miles).
It obviously could have been much worse. This was the first time I've had an airbag deploy, and that was no problem. The first responders were great, and the truck driver may have been a life saver, if not for me, possibly for someone who would have struck the disabled car in the traffic lane.
Dean, don't count on me for dinner........
Rob, Sorry to hear - but glad you're ok!
WOW, glad to hear you're OK Rob
Glad you're OK, as you mention, could have been worse.
I'd heard that about a Prius, that it becomes an immovable object, seems like a poor design feature, one would think there'd be an over-ride so you could at least push the car to the side of the road..
Venison for dinner?
Total blackout after a bump on the hood is really bad
Glad you're OK!
I was a bit worried while I had to change to the spare wheel on the shoulder of a turnpike after having a flat on the daily driver yesterday, but that was daytime with working four way flashers..
I have flashing battery bicycle rear lights on the model T for similar occurrences, but it seems like a good idea to carry battery bike lights in a Prius too ;)
Sorry to hear of the accident. I'm glad you and the others are alright.
After the dust settles I would like to find out more about the your comment "the car went immediately went dark, the brakes locked up..." after you hit the deer. I'd like to know if that is a common occurrence for the Prius and possibly other hybrid cars when they are a in a accident? A quick Google search didn’t turn much about that – so probably not happening that often. But if the dealer etc. tells you something about that – please let us know. When my Dad hit a good size deer in his then new truck, it messed up the front of the truck. But it didn't get the radiator so he was able to drive home which was about another 2 hours.
Again, I'm glad you are safe. You will be in our thoughts and prayers today requesting that you won't be really stiff and sore from the accident.
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I would think that is similar to the fuel pump interlock switch on later model cars that cuts the power off to the fuel pump in a collision.
But it is resettable and if possible the vehicle can be moved.
Although cosmetically that looks bad, the mechanics of the car should still operate enough to move it.So yes,like others, I would like to hear what you find out about this.
Is it a rental? Could be related to liability or something.
Glad that Prius didn't explode.
But it's probably on fire right now.
Rob, very sorry about your mishap. I already didn't like the Prius, now I don't like 'em even more. About fifteen years ago I had to pick a deer out of the front end of my pick-up. I've never felt kindly toward them since.
I'm glad you're okay.
That's a downright shame, Rob. Thankfully, nobody was hurt. It was especially good that the airbag didn't injure you.
In 2006, I was riding shotgun in a small Ford in Mexico when we collided with a horse that ran in front of us. It hit the left front corner, broke the windshield in front of me, dented the top over me, and landed in the road behind us. I was amazed how quick the airbags deployed and how fast they deflated.
Yes, there's no doubt a G-switch that tripped. Next time, you will know where it is.
That's a common traffic hazard in most of the country, and I don't know that there's anything you can do about it but be lucky enough to see the critter soon enough to avoid it. I've had a few close calls, but only one collision. Fortunately it was at such low speed there was no damage to the car or the deer.
Thanks for the kind wishes and comments. A little followup.
I was traveling all of 75 mph, and the interstate was only "sprinkled" with traffic at that hour. The deer appeared on my left side (that side of the car is much more damaged, but I didn't want to stand in the oncoming traffic lane to take a pic). At the last second I saw the deer (large buck, I saw the rack, but couldn't say how big, just that it was large bodied).
As soon as the collision occurred I put on the brakes (and/or they applied too) and I never felt threatened in the "cockpit." This is my second Prius, and very likely I'll look for another (and I'll look at a Ford hybrid, and possibly VW TDI diesel).
I am glad this didn't happen on my back, because I would have had six loose jugs (K cylinders) and the radiator directly behind the front seats. I would heal, but how do you replace K parts )?
In retrospect, all turned out as well as possible, the deer was not left in the traffic lane to cause a road hazard. My car was not left in the lane either (due to the generosity of a truck driver).
Now to get on with a nice Sunday. Thanks again for your concerns. Fortunately, another thing learned with minimal damage (except to the deer and a car),
Here's a discussion on locked up Prius. I used to work with a gal who had one, she lives on a farm with a long driveway, she had her car "lock up" and they couldn't move it, so, while there's apparently a solution, it's not uncommon.
I surely wouldn't want to be trying to do this on a busy highway, though....
Sorry about the mishap, but glad you're OK, and the parts too!
This time of year I'm really on the lookout for deer, even during the daytime especially in the T. I've already had them cross in front of me, but luckily about a quarter mile ahead. Hate to think what would happen if we made direct contact. I think it'd be ugly. For me and the car, not the deer!
Yet another reason I prefer not to drive 'em real fast.
In 1940 Tom Mix was killed when his Cord hit a "dry wash" at speed in Arizona going across the desert at night. His metal suitcase that was laying on the back seat came up and hit him on the back of the head. Last week I was going to Butte after dark and a Deer walked out in front of me at about 75. I set the air, the ABS in my Subaru came on - first time I'd ever had that happen - and I stopped so quick I couldn't believe it. But my fiddle amp, which was loaded just inside the rear hatch on the driver's side, came flying up through the gap in the front seats, hit me on the elbow and hit the dash, caving in the trim, breaking some pieces, leaving black marks, etc. It also put a pretty good smack in the amp. The amp is an Acoustic Image, pretty round, about 18 inches tall, 15 in diameter, weighs about 30 lbs. If it would have hit me on the back of the head I might have been Tom Mix. As it is, the body shop says $1000+ to fix the dash. I think my insurance will pay but I haven't told them about it yet. The deer walked off the side of the road unhurt and went back to eating green grass. Lesson learned: Tie down the crap you're hauling in the back of a station wagon.
Lesson from Nader: it isn't what the car hits that matters; it's what you hit (hits you) inside the car. He related a story of a little kid losing an eye on a radio knob in a Buick in a hard stop at 15 mph.
Sorry about your car, and am glad you are OK. You didn't say what happened to the deer?
We had almost a similar experience when my wife was driving a 67 Dodge Dart in the Sierras. almost dusk and two deer ran in front of us. She was able to slam on the brake and made a complete U turn as we came to a stop. She wanted me to drive, but I wanted her to get out of the middle of the road. Fortunately we didn't hit the deer. She was very shaken, but we got to a motel at Susanville where we spent the night All 4 tires had flat spots on them until we got new tires.
We have deer all around us (!#!&@@!!!), they eat the garden, any decorative trees one plants, the roses, etc. AND they are often in the road, or crossing the road when one drives it! AAAUGH!!
Years ago we were driving our new-to-us Accord to Dunsmuir on T-Day morning--mid morning we were in flat land (Cottonwood, CA, drove across the Sacrament River Bridge amidst a lot of traffic. I noticed something moving in the bushes on the other side of the freeway, and suddenly a buck jumped out of the bushes in front of us, almost made it past us, and WHAM! Lucky for us there was a lull in the traffic and we were able to pull over. The !@#!!! deer was only hit in the rump and was working it's way up the embankment and gave me a real dirty look.
Car was still drivable, so we continued on to T-day dinner. So deer can be around in the middle of the day, anywhere!!
Now I could tell you about the 2 (yes two) times I've hit a bear. . .
Let me get this straight, ... you are publicly admitting you own/drive a Prius ?
Probably everybody knows this, but it's a good thing to remember. Any time you have a deer run across the highway in front of you, it's good to keep in mind that more often than not, there's another one not far behind the first one, so even if the first one has run clear across the road and is clear of the highway, slow down anyway because the second one may run out in front of you,....FWIW,....harold
Besides, I have to cut somewhere. Our K only averaged 13 miles per gallon.
The gas Rob saves with the Prius affords him to drive a K.
Burger, I have to admit, I laughed at that!.
You mean that little bit of damage is a Total on that car? You gota be kidding?
It wasen't the cost of the damage that totaled his car it is the cost of cleaning the seat and his pants!
Glad your OK Rob
Not to be off topic, but when you live near an area called Beartown, you have to expect them to be out and about. There have been many bears out and about bu none have been hit by a vehicle which is a wonder when you see how crazy people drive on our road.
Three cheers for the helpful truck driver! Most anymore would not have bothered. He is a good American.
I have always done a lot of driving in areas with a lot of deer. So far, (SO FAR), I have not hit one myself. My wife hit one about seven years ago. It did a fair amount of damage to the Grand Cherokee. A lot more to the deer.
No matter how good you are, deer have a nasty way of sneaking out and jumping in front of cars when it is too late to avoid them safely.
Rob, I am so glad that you are fine. And that there were no additional collisions. Toyota will be glad to build you a new Prius.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
No Ford parts were damaged in the making of this scene.
I guess I will stick with my Explorer. Thank you for the call yesterday and glad to hear you are OK. Shouldn't be up at 4AM when you have church in the morning.
Hope to get more info for you this Wed.
The Prius had more than 140,000 miles, and the left front, windshield and hood are destroyed, and who knows what else (dark, I couldn't see all the damage). I suspect it will be totalled, should find out tomorrow.
A German Model T friend sent this regarding the Prius. I wondered about the transmission as far as power and moving. His comments:
"Glad to hear that you are ok. A damaged Prius is "just lost money". Interesting that you are driving a Prius. For me this is still one of the most fascinating cars on the market in the moment. Not only because it is a Hybrid with a high mileage. The transmission is the ingenious part of a Prius. Similar to a Model T it is a Planetary transmission, or better two planetary transmissions sharing sharing a common outer gear. I have never seen such a fascinating transmission before.
And this is most likely the reason why the car has been locked after the collision. Similar to a Ruckstell, a Prius transmission does not have a mechanical neutral in the Planetary mechanism. The driven wheels are always directly connected to the transmission which is directly connected to the two engines. The Prius does not have a clutch! The neutral is only "simulated" by a second electric engine controlling the movement of the planets in one of the two transmissions (even most of the Prius drivers do not know that there are two e-motors in the car. One to drive and a second one to control one of the two Planetary transmissions). This will only work if electrical power is available in the car. I assume that due to safety reasons, the whole power supply of our Prius was "cut" after the accident. And then you have no "neutral" and can not
move the car."
Questionable safety to be left without rear lights or four way flashers after a crash in the dark on the highway..
What is even more amazing than a Prius transmission is the total disconnect between the mechanical side of the car,
and the utter lack of design for the body. I throw away better looking old bars of soap. The Prius crowd has a reputation
for being all about function and zero about form and perhaps this is part of Toyota's marketing strategy ? I have too
much design sense to ever go that route unless they packaged the mechanicals in something better looking.
I never leave home without flares...Sounds like in a Prius It's even more important. Sorry about the tough luck!
I am glad you didnt get hurt or hit. Surviving a tractor trailer re ending like I did puts a fear in your heart of a repeat for the rest of your life.
Like you Burger I can not understand why a hybrid has to look so darn funny.That is 1 thing I think it was Chip Foose or coddington did that I agree somewhat with.He put Prius mechanics in a early styled street rod. Made a decent looking ,practical car.
Just got back from a heavy traffic trip to Beverly Hills. Every taxi I saw was a Prius.
Her is a picture of a Prius taxi:
Wifey and I were in one of those in Macao, and collided with a car. The driver was unhurt, but the trike damaged, so we walked from there.
A few years back I had a kangaroo join me on the front seat after entering via the front windscreen!. It kicked the living daylights out of the roof lining and passengers door. I was lucky the way it landed, I was able to stop and get out before it could kick me.
Tow truck driver thought it was funny. Car was a write off.
Well, it's official. Totaled. Now to find out what State Farm pays on the car....
A car that goes dark and dead like that should get a flare tossed inside.
Before or after the wreck?
Wouldn't have been so bad if you were driving a big manly truck Rob. =)
Just another note on deer encounters. Several years ago I encountered a large buck on I-95 near Augusta Maine. Normal reaction, I swerved away from the deer and did a perfect intercept. Something like leading a duck so the lead is ahead of the duck for him to fly into. Several people have told me since then that the best strategy, if you have time to think, is to head towards the deer. If the deer is running he won't be where you aimed when you get there. I second the comment about always watching for the next deer in line as well. Up here in the Great White North, the bigger hazard is moose. They are tall enough that when hit they tend to fall on the windshield or roof. Driver and passengers stand very little chance of survival, especially in a small car. An additional problem is that Moose are so dark that they appear black at night and are seldom seen before they become one with the vehicle. Game wardens here had to destroy a young moose yesterday after it became friendly with people in a small community and decided to lay down on the road. They believe it had brainworm which affects moose and causes them to become docile and disoriented. Bottom line, the bigger your truck, the better.
A buddy stopped by yesterday to show the damage done to his car... when he hit a pheasant.
He hit it in Illinois and didn't realize what had happened till he got almost back to Detroit. He now has a complete pheasant, (male), jammed under the headlight assembly of his Dodge Caravan. It broke his front fascia and got lodged between it and the headlight assembly. He would have removed it but it appears that it's now the only thing holding the headlight assembly in place. His wife even drove the Caravan grocery store with the pheasant hanging out of the front end. Onlookers asked if she knew about it. Oh yes, she replied and walked on into the store.
About three years ago I hit a deer on the Interstate south of Great Falls at about 85. Never saw it before or after I hit it. Made a big bang and that was it. I went back but couldn't find it. (I was going to shoot it if it was just crippled and suffering) 2007 Dodge quad cab 1500 4 x 4. Took the right headlight, grill hood and fender and put some dents in them, I drove it to Great Falls and taped the headlight back in with rez chrome (duct tape -- yes I know it's politically incorrect but that's what they call it on the rez, too) bent the hood a little so it would latch and drove it like that for a couple months until I could get it in to get it fixed. First one I ever hit in all the miles I drive. I was glad I hit it with the pickup instead of the car, I think it would have totalled my Vibe.
Rob, This is why I insist that my wife drives a proper car, imagine if you had hit a big old man Kangaroo who stood 7 foot plus high,he would have come through your windscreen & your K Model would have been on the market. Stay safe drive a proper sized FORD & keep driving your K after all I am looking forward to a ride.
Here is a picture of a wild turkey that ran into a Coke truck. They say nothing is better then wild turkey and coke!
Glad it wasn't Jack and Coke.
A few years back Candy and I were touring in our 1905 1 cylinder Cadillac. Heading up hill at the break neck speed of 10 miles per hour, on a country road, we startled a family of deer up in a slight rise along side the road.
Mother deer jumped from the hill over the top of us landing in the next lane over. Candy ducked and screamed at the same to telling me to stop the damn car. Those of you having spent time in an early brass car very well know you don't do ANYTHING fast going or stopping.
I remember rather well as she passed over my head seeing several rather full teets flapping about. No harm to fowl all was well in the end. Had she cleared us by inches just a few lower and we would both be dead today.
That car will be on the road in 6 months or less. unbelievable that is a total.
I inherited my mothers Focus. And I drove it after I did some repairs till it dropped a valve seat.But I was always scared to death on the interstate because i could see UNDER trailers when big rigs went by.A deer or a hoppy toad would be in the windshield because of the low front end if I hit it.
As I said before, so far, I have not hit a deer. With all the driving I have done in deer country, I have had my share of near-misses. One of the most interesting, was not with a deer, but a bull elk. I was driving the '88 CH## Suburban that I used to have, headed up the dreaded 101 south of Laytonville. It must have been "the season", as there were three cow elk on the shoulder and in my lane. This one big bull elk must have thought my Suburban was coming to challenge him as he first went across the road to the other side, then back across into my side. Fortunately, I have always had exceptional night vision, and saw them in spite of the dark and around a curve. I braked heavily, and began to creep past as this bull wandered from side to side. As I eased past him, he was literally inches from the Suburban's side windows. I could not see the top of his shoulders!!! I could barely look under his belly! His head must have been at least two feet above the roof of my not exactly small 3/4 ton Suburban 20!
Rob, be glad that you did not hit an elk. I have never seen a moose, however, I understand that they are even bigger. Although your little car could have just run under the one I avoided (if you were travelling fast enough). He would have totaled my rig.
Then there was the time I avoided a black bear on a dark and cloudy night. That was also interesting.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
It's a Jake and Coke.
Was on a HCCA Tour in a wooded area outside Pendleton OR. when a deer ran out of the woods and landed on the hood of a 15 model T roadster in front of us. We were doing at least 30 mph when this happened. The driver of the 15 roadster was very lucky....only pushed down the hood and bent over the brass rad. spout. Fortunately did not break the windshield. The driver maintained control and only suffered some sore ribs from hitting the steering wheel.
He had installed rack and pinion steering which may have saved his life. He was able to keep complete control of the 15 roadster after hitting the deer. It all happen so quickly that there was nothing that anyone could have done to miss the deer.
There was no blood on the hood or radiator spout. The deer quickly got up and ran off. The hood and windshield were covered with deer hair. We were very lucky that things turned out like they did and we were not also involved. Some one could have easily been killed if the car flipped in front of us. He never had time to hit the brakes as it happened so quickly.
Did not ask the driver if he had any skid marks in his shorts.....