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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 01:49 pm:

I have my suspicions, but would like a few other opinions. I'm trying to nail down places and times Model K were shipped in 1906. Thanks for your input,

Rob



from this entry in the Ford Canada ledger at Windsor Canada (thank you Steven M.):


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nicholas Lingg - Tarboro, NC on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 01:57 pm:

Livesiton Co India


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By brass car guy on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 02:43 pm:

I have copies of original hand written ledgers for 1 cylinder Cadillac's. I must say Henry should have paid more for his calegrapher. The Cadillac notes are written with great flourish and beauty, and very readable. How amazing that any original notes were ever kept.

just sayin'

brasscarguy


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Paul on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 02:44 pm:

Looks like the old proper name "Livitus" to me.....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Paul on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 02:47 pm:

And it doesn't look like "Co" to me. Take a look at the other handwritten capital "C"'s in the ledger.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Manuel, Lafayette, La. on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 03:18 pm:

David, what appears to be dots over the letters are really ditto mark for the line above. May be Livitus without dots though---who knows.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 03:53 pm:

I agree, I believe they are "ditto" marks above the first word:



Maybe L-e-v-e-t-u-?-?......

If the remainder says "too India" (I believe the middle word may be "too" instead of "to"?), I've not found a city with a similar name in India. Maybe a Ford dealership name?


In the book noted below, author David Roberts writes that Fords were shipped through Ford Canada (McGregor) to "filling in for Detroit." This may explain where some of the 30-40 "missing" Model K went (I'm up to about 960 Model K, while 1,000 were contracted for, with no reduction or cancellation noted in Ford Directors minutes or other archives that I'm aware of .





Thanks for the help,

Rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 06:12 pm:

Perhaps "Levetus Company" in India. The Co may be for company not county. Maybe a search for companies in India that Ford sold to would help solve the riddle.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Friday, November 07, 2014 - 06:40 pm:

DAH! if I would read more carefully and drink less I guess I would have seen that you already stated that it may be a dealer and not a town.

Ok I'll read more closely but I'm not going to drink less!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 07:17 am:

Denny,

"Post responsibly"

"Friends don't let Friends drink and post"

"Free soft drinks for designated posters"

Just a few ideas.......... :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ex trooper on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 10:03 am:

Ask a mailman...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 01:38 pm:

Rob,

Judging by other entries before & after, what type of information should appear in that column/s? Customer name? Address? Or, are those entries just odd jotted notes, used in that line only?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 04:35 pm:

It looks as if 208 was originally going to Toronto but was changed to someplace else.
I am wondering if it is Indiana and they ran out of room or made a sloppy/hasty change!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 06:15 pm:

Fred, yes, it appears 208 was going to be an exhibit car (demonstrator?) for Dominion Auto in Toronto. However, I think it was rerouted and the last part of the notation is "India."

Thank you John Page for the email. I did find "A. Levetus" competing in the Dehli-Bombay Trials in January 1905. Not exactly enough to say it's a fit, but if we're guessing correctly on the word "Levetus" then it's a possible this is the person the car went to (or not). There is a company by this name in India several years later (reference John's email):



A side note, there was an Oldsmobile competing in the Trials:



Dominion Auto reported in 1907 that the Fords (six and four cylinder) were their four most "in demand" cars at the time (they handled sales for ten carmakers).




Dominion Auto received six of the 35 Model K recorded on the Ford Canada ledger:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Karl Gilchrist on Sunday, November 09, 2014 - 01:21 am:

Rob If it did end up in India and if (I know a much bigger if) it still exists it will stay there as India prohibits the export of any vintage vehicle . Interestingly enough so does the States for some vehicles. A few years ago a New Zealander tried to export Carole Lombard's Duesenberg from the States to New Zealand . He wasn't allowed as the car was deemed a national treasure . A few weeks later so the story goes he exported a container load of Duesenberg parts with no problems . Miraculously when assembled the parts turned into Carol Lombard's Duesy. Not sure how I feel about that one Karl


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