What would a correct 1912 license plate bracket look like

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: What would a correct 1912 license plate bracket look like
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Colin Mavins on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 05:23 pm:

The bracket on our 1912t is a 1915,In Manitoba 12 thou 14 were short 15,16,were wide these wide plates fit on this bracket. What does the 12 bracket look like.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 05:48 pm:

Leather straps attach the plate to the axle.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 06:51 pm:

Maybe it was different in Canada (probably :-) ), but I don't think Ford put any front license plate brackets on the cars. All I've seen are aftermarket. But I'm willing to learn something new if someone knows differently.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Colin Mavins on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 07:42 pm:

I have other brackets that fit but I think they are from the 1920s. Up to 1910 leather was used mid way through 1911 we had plates, A standard size plate came in 1927, if memory serves me correctly.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Kramer on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 10:00 pm:

Colin,
Front license plate bracket
I have 3 Canadian,Price List of Parts Ford Model T books.
1-1909-May 1912,2nd edition,not mentioned.
2-Nov. 1914,Third edition,not mentioned.
3-Jan 15,1919,The front licence plate bracket is listed,cost .25 cents,1917-1919,Part # 5706
I hope this helps.
Scott


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Colin Mavins on Sunday, November 09, 2014 - 10:18 am:

Yes this helps I thought maybe the original was lost went the bigger plates came out later in the 70 dad made 2 brackets and mounted them on the motor mount u bolts now we are back to the head lamp one. Thanks everyone Colin


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Georgetown TX on Sunday, November 09, 2014 - 04:27 pm:

Ford factory photos showing brass - era front license plate holders. These are early and late 1914 cars, both wearing the same Michigan auto manufacturer plate:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Sunday, November 09, 2014 - 11:13 pm:

To elaborate on Royce's posts - below is a rehash of something I posted in 2012 - see this thread:http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/286622.html?1336404237

That photos of the 1914 Fords are factory photos and the license plate is a Michigan manufacturer's plate denoted by the letter "M" following the digits 5005.

The factory photos show what I consider TEMPORARY mounting of Michigan manufacturers plates. Manufacturers plates could be attached and removed from cars as needed and moved from car to car. Utilizing leather straps made this easy to accomplish.

What is shown in the photos does not necessarily imply the proper or correct method for displaying a license plate on a 1914 Ford. It just shows the method Ford Motor Company chose to display a Michigan manufacturer's license plate.

I would not recommend mounting the plates with straps on the axles. Hanging the plates in that fashion is not very practical if you want your plates to last.

There were many ways to mount license plates with or without aftermarket brackets. Example of mounting the plates up front include:

1) Clips on the front spring ubolts - you can buy repros from Langs (although they aren't the greatest because the plate can interfere with the crank - period brackets actually have a short dog leg in them to avoid this problem):

http://www.modeltford.com/item/3664E.aspx

2) bracket that attaches to the headlight fork

3) bracket that attaches to the radiator neck (in my opinion, this method of mounting is ugly)

4) Mount the plate to the wood beneath the windshield glass. This method was used on many cars in the early days of the automobile and was also common on 1912 and earlier Model Ts.

There are also are variety of brackets to mount a license plate on the rear of the car

Also be aware that statutes dictate how license plates are to be displayed on automobiles.

Below are photos of period front brackets for a Model T Ford. Note that these brackets have the dog leg, unlike the reproductions that are being sold by the vendors.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kim Dobbins on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - 10:24 pm:

Here is another license plate holder that mounts to the front axle.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - 11:00 pm:

Here's a headlight fork front plate holder.



Here's a front license plate holder/crank lock.



Here's several different radiator neck license plate holders


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - 11:14 pm:

Some variety from 1913 Nat'l Auto Supply catalog.



Many versions clipped around the radiator neck.

One of these for the Ford mounts to the front axle, similar to the leather strap versions.
Note the title license 'pad', as early on states didn't have metal plates, the owner made his own pad of leather and riveted on metal letters or numerals as required for registration.


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