I purchased a 1921 motor & tranny from a local who is being forced by the County to remove all of his model A & T parts.
He's scrapping what don't sell before his next audit. I'm wanting to save as much as I can afford.
I need help with realistic prices for the following items in usable condition with
some light repairs.
1920's Model T parts:
-truck beds and tailgates
-21" wire wheels
1927 to 1935 Model A parts:
-truck beds and tailgates
-early wire wheels...16"..19"..etc
-V8 wire wheels
-1927-29 radiators(cond-unknown) and shells.
-1930-35 radiators(cond-unknown) and shells.
I understand the variables involved in such a request.
I intend to document as much as possible within respectable limits to the owners situation and will post my findings.
Russell, since you (and presumably the parts) are in Festus, you might want to get in touch with these folks as well. Very active club....
Frankly if he is going to have to scrap the stuff offer him just above scrap price.
Or offer to remove the parts, sell and pay him a percentage.
If you are providing the labor to remove, sort and store you need to break even or come out ahead a little. Your time and effort has to be worth something.
Russell, I live in Hillsboro, MO, only 10 miles from Festus. I don't need any parts, but if you need a hand looking things over or loading/unloading parts, PM me and let me know where and when to meet.
I would be interested in a truck bed and tail gate to fit.
I appreciate the logical suggestions and offerings to help but if it were not for his buddy helping him sell the parts I would not have lasted 5min on the property.
It does not matter to him if they sell or go to scrap, in his eye's there is no difference.
He is not negotiating prices, So when he quotes a price I need to be able to make an educated decision.
Yeah..I know...But I can be very passive when it comes to getting the end result that I want.
I have searched the net for these prices but they go from one extreme to another.
I will definitely try to set something up with the model a club.
Mark, I'll keep you in mind but I'm not sure if I want to subject you to this kind of abuse..haha
I am scheduled to meet with them again tomorrow....Monday around 2pm.
TT Bed/Tailgate or Roadster?
25 Roadster pickup bed with tailgate, generally bring near $500 if in good shape, later ones bring less, but not much if in good shape.
I can't get $25 at a swap meet for decent, but need work 25 and earlier through 17 front fenders. 26-27 fronts bring much more $100 or more depending on condition.
Rears are about the same as above, but usually they bring a little more than $25.
Window frames is vague, but I rarely sell one. I have seen them go at auctions for $10 each or $10 for a whole pile.
Running boards are like fenders around here. I can put $10 on one and get no lookers.
Good Model t wire wheels bring around a $100 to $125 each, but make sure they are Model T. The Model A ones look similar, but command a much, much more cheaper price.
All of this goes out the window if it is early stuff or hard to find body parts, Couplet, Centerdoor etc.
GO to EPAY and search for stuff under completed listings.
This is just my opinion on what you generally described, pictures would be better, but the situation probably doesn't allow for it.
Assuming you have place to put them, my suggestion, assuming it's not a bunch of rusted out garbage, but usable parts in reasonable condition would be to estimate the weight of the lot and figure the scrap price, and offer him double that.
He's already told you that he's looking at scrapping what he can't get you to buy. Why would you offer market price when he's already tipped his hand? Follow Ted's advice.
TT bed, and thanks for the prices. I have viewed ebay but some of their listings are just ridiculous.
Didn't know about the completed list though...Not an e-bay'er.
Ted and Eric..I agree!
But he's being forced by the county to remove these items and his mindset is, If he cant get his asking price he'll scrap'em before he allows someone like me to low ball him.
He's understandably pretty pissed off about the situation.
County hit me last year for having a 1966 F100 on my 5-acres that didn't run..Made me put it in the garage.
I guess I could hold up at the scrap yard and wait?...lol
Sounds like a heck of a county to live in...
If the owner is that difficult to deal with and already has his mind made up that he's willing to pass up a reasonable offer on his parts, and he doesn't care if they sell or scrap out, I probably wouldn't wast a whole lot of calories on it. Bottom line is he's already in a lose lose situation with the county, I'd rather give it away as have a bunch of local government idiots tell me what I can and can't have on my property! Plus if he's that unreasonable and you really want any of the parts.
You can follow the scrap truck(s) from his place back to the salvage yard and get a heck of a good deal on all of it after they pay him penny's on the dollar for it...!
Don't get me wrong I'm not bashing the owner, I'd be highly t'eed off too if it were my parts. But to help the hobby and to maybe put a couple cars back on the road I'd liquidate my own parts in the allotted time frame they set up.
Good luck to him.
Looks like this is all I'll be getting.
1921 $200.00 Purchased on my 1st visit..
Perfect for my intended purpose..A Jig for building bodies...Happy to have it.
Why don't you let other folks know where this pile of stuff is since you are done? The seller might make some new friends and get well compensated for his agony.
Russ,I would go make an arraignment with the scrapper,and just have him call you when the load comes in. I know where there is a junk yard full of frames and stuff.Offered the scrapper 2-3 times junk price,and his brother won't sell. Go figure.
I do not know this man, I understand he is Psd off at the state or county, but some people are just A holes, This guy sounds like a Psd off A hole. You can not fix stupid. Thanks for trying to save the stuff and maybe more of it will surface later, but .......who knows ?? I was in a similar situation several years ago. Our A-hole was getting rid of all his rusty stuff. Dozens of chassis, several tudor bodies, and lots of piles of misc parts and several engines, also 2 complete 32 chevy coupes. He gave it all to the mid 20s year old neighbor who was a junker/scrap seller. He gave it all to him to sell for scrap. Well the junker knew me and brought a load by my house. I bought it all for double what he could have got for scrap and cut his transport distance in half. He was going to bring me a load everyday to look at and buy it if I wanted it. The 2nd load was loaded and the man who gave it to him came by, The junker told him he had sold some of it to a collector for more than he could have got for junk and thanked him for helping him and his family. I bought the second load. The junker called me the next day and said there would be no more loads. It appears the owner got mad that he was making too much and took his bulldozer and drove over all the parts over and over, it appears that he was doing spinning donuts on top of the parts. He did it so much he spun the tracks off his dozer on top of one of the 32 Chevys. Like I said "you can not fix stupid"...
I wasn't done....
I paid his asking price for unit above..
Full market value for condition was offered on other items.
Donnie/ You nailed it!
I'll get some business cards to the local scrap yards.
It happens everywhere.
I know of a farmer who has a field full of highly desired muscle cars..
GTO's Chevelles,Chargers, Nomads...the list goes on... but will not even entertain the thought of selling.
Found this near my house couple years ago...Caught the owner outside burning brush,Very nice fella...I said name your price!
Same thing..Wont sell it...and has no desire to put in the Barn...Just kills me!!
That $200 dollar chassis is a real bargain! Has axles and everything. Some people are strange... and wasteful. Guess they never made a car up from nothing.
I've seen it lots of times -- Nothing's for sale, even though it's out in the weather. "Gonna' restore that one of these days." Twenty years later, the guy's dead, the cars are still there, and they're rotted into oblivion.