1916 or 1917

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2014: 1916 or 1917
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth LeBlanc on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 07:38 pm:

my brother has a touring car that was surpose to be a 1917 with a few left over 1916 parts on it
the engine number is for an august of 16 car after looking at bruces book everything on the car also seems to be 16 except hood - radiator and headlamp rings the car has been in storage since 1957 and dosent seem to have been put together everything appears stock has anyone heard of later noses being put on the late brass cars ? thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Clayton Swanson on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 08:14 pm:

it was some times done later to modernize the car and get rid of that embaresing old brass


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 08:32 pm:

August of 1916 is in the 1917 model year.

http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG90.html

Are the fenders flat, or crowned? (Pictures would help with ID.)


(Message edited by steve_jelf_parkerfield_ks on November 13, 2014)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 08:49 pm:

There's no difference between 1916 and 1917 headlamp rims. Black paint on steel for both model years.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Sims on Thursday, November 13, 2014 - 09:07 pm:

I have a August 7 16 touring. This car also has many things that look earlier but many things that were new for 17. It would be nice to compare each of our cars.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth LeBlanc on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 09:26 am:

would the aug 16 car have the 16 fenders to match the body or the rounded 17 to match the nose jim I am sure my brother would like to compare with you how should he get in touch with you


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 10:12 am:

As far as appearance is concerned, with the exception of the hood former, there's really no difference between a late 1916 and early 1917 body. Minor changes to the body occurred during the course of the 1917 model year such as the design of the windshield, door latches and other things that are really technical changes that do not affect the overall cosmetic appearance of the car to the casual observer.

A 1917 Ford produced in August 1916 would have crown fenders, updated hood, updated radiator and matching shell. Any brass on the car such as the windshield channel would be nickel plated.

I am not saying that there could not have been 1916 models produced in August 1916. However, I highly doubt there were 1916/17 "hybrid" Fords produced with the mix and match parts you are describing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Sims on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 11:33 am:

Kenneth, My email is jimsimstheatsymblewildblue.net (remove the description and insert the @) I will attempt to post photos of the earlier features on my Aug 7 car. or contact me thru my profile


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Friday, November 14, 2014 - 09:18 pm:

Kenneth,

Please also see the posting about Jim Sims early 1917 at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/494360.html?1416017659 I believe you have many of the same questions. And of course photos make it much easier to understand.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth LeBlanc on Sunday, November 16, 2014 - 10:35 am:

thanks everyone and Jim I will pass your info on to my brother


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